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so if the winch plate bolts directly to the frame would you need a front bumper? this has been on my mind for a while but i didn't want to ask and if anyone has a rig like this pics would be nice
 

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In most cases the winch bolts to a winch plate which bolts to the frame so technically you don't need a bumper.
However, some bumpers are set up to receive a winch directly.
 

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Running a front setup without a front bumper and expecting a winch plate that is probably a foot wide and 1/4 thick to protect your front front end is not only foolish but probably illegal. Also a good way to easily damage your winch in a minor collision.
 

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Ya it was just a question I'm saving up for a stinger does anyone have any good places to get one
 
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