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I sold my 2008 JKUS last week so I could get a Rubi.

I have located 2 that i want, both white

1. 2014 with 32K on it. 3.73, Nav, Auto A/C, cloth, premuim sound, connectivity
2. 2015 with 42K on it. 4.11, leather, premium sound, connectivity

I am leaning towards the 2014 since is has the cloth, nav and auto a/c.

the only thing I want in the 2015 is the 4.11
 
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By default, the jeep wrangler site shows that when one builds & price the Rubicon, by making an adjustment to allow for the automatic trans, the gears actually downgrades to the 3.73 ratio. However, After adjusting for the automatic trans, one can regear to the 4.10 within the build and price system and go from there.

In this case, it would be easier for you to purchase the lesser gear 2014 jeep with the options you want and just have it re-gear to the 4.10 thereafter.
 

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If you plan to get bigger tires, maybe in the 33" range, then you might want 4.10. If you plan to go to 35 or higher, you'll probably be best suited with more than 4.10, meaning the 2014, 35" tiers and a custom regear is probably a better option.

Much of a price difference between the two?
 

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Climate control or auto AC isn't really all that great of a feature. I've found myself using manual setting on occasion at start up, depending on conditions.

Factory Nav also isn't that great. I find myself using my phone more and more.

Leather is potentially great. So far easy to clean, feels and looks more rugged. And if it ages anything like I hope, old worn leather beats out old worn cloth any day. Especially in a jeep.

Also - the 4.10 gears are great - for stock tires. If your going to go up much in tire size, your probably going to want to regear anyway.
 

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I would want the 4.10 gears.

Premium sound in the 2015 will be much better than the premium sound in the 2014.

I would go for the 2015 and recover the seats or use seat covers if I didn't like the leather.
 

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What did you end up with?
Nothing yet, still negotiating.



If you plan to get bigger tires, maybe in the 33" range, then you might want 4.10. If you plan to go to 35 or higher, you'll probably be best suited with more than 4.10, meaning the 2014, 35" tiers and a custom regear is probably a better option.

Much of a price difference between the two?
I will be doing 35's, and I am aware that the 3.73's aren't the best for 35's. The lower miles and other features are better than going for the gears. Let's be honest if I really start going crazy, I will regear any way


Climate control or auto AC isn't really all that great of a feature. I've found myself using manual setting on occasion at start up, depending on conditions.

Factory Nav also isn't that great. I find myself using my phone more and more.

Leather is potentially great. So far easy to clean, feels and looks more rugged. And if it ages anything like I hope, old worn leather beats out old worn cloth any day. Especially in a jeep.

Also - the 4.10 gears are great - for stock tires. If your going to go up much in tire size, your probably going to want to regear anyway.
I would want the 4.10 gears.

Premium sound in the 2015 will be much better than the premium sound in the 2014.

I would go for the 2015 and recover the seats or use seat covers if I didn't like the leather.

I prefer cloth in Jeeps, since the Jeep will be naked all the time. Leather gets really hot in GA.

I am one of the few people that love Auto A/C, and for the Jeep it will really be more like Auto heat. that feature will be used in the winter more than the summer.
 
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Seems like you've done your research and really thought it out - I think you'll end up happy.

Good luck with the negotiations! Let us know what you end up with.
 

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Question for everyone. Someone in the for sale adds is selling 4.10 gears.

Can I just swap the 3.73's out and replace with the 4.10? or is there more to it?
 

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Question for everyone. Someone in the for sale adds is selling 4.10 gears.

Can I just swap the 3.73's out and replace with the 4.10? or is there more to it?
it costs a lot to install. ranging from 600+. I got my gears for 300, and install for 600otd. pricing will be based on location/shop. Might as well upgrade to lower gearing.
 

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Question for everyone. Someone in the for sale adds is selling 4.10 gears.

Can I just swap the 3.73's out and replace with the 4.10? or is there more to it?

Is the 3.73 to 4.10 jump even worth it? I keep reading that 4.56 is better for 35's.

I don't know that I would go through the hassle for a 10% difference. Just my .02.
 

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it costs a lot to install. ranging from 600+. I got my gears for 300, and install for 600otd. pricing will be based on location/shop. Might as well upgrade to lower gearing.
I would be doing the swap myself. Not afraid to get my hands dirty and learn something. I have done a lot of mechanical on my cars and jeeps in the past.

I hear you though, the cost of the better gears is not that much.
 

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Gear install isn't a basic wrench monkey task. Best done by someone who had experience.

I'd argue that leather seats with cheap seat covers will hold up better (especially if you're running naked) than cloth seats.

4.10's are great with stock tires. But with 35's you'll likely want 4.56 or 4.88's - don't be sold on the factory 4.10's.

If your running naked a lot, even less reason for climate control.
 

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Is the 3.73 to 4.10 jump even worth it? I keep reading that 4.56 is better for 35's.

I don't know that I would go through the hassle for a 10% difference. Just my .02.
Is it worth it? Probably not if you'll be starting with one ratio and going through the cost and labour installing another. With all other factors being equal:

3.73's = marginally better fuel mileage, less get up and go (had them in my Sahara)

4:10's = marginally worse fuel mileage, better acceleration (have them in JKUR)

Purely from "butt dyno" and drivability perspectives on the stock tire size, I prefer the 4:10's but wouldn't say either would be optimum if 35" tires or larger are in your future. In that case, I'd say buy the best all around Jeep you can and be prepared to re-gear to an appropriate ratio when the time comes.
 

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I would be doing the swap myself. Not afraid to get my hands dirty and learn something. I have done a lot of mechanical on my cars and jeeps in the past.

I hear you though, the cost of the better gears is not that much.
Setting up gears can be really tricky. You probably already know this, but just in case. If you don't get the lash set right, the new gears will autocannibalize very quickly.
 

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I'd go for the fifteen myself. Updated oil cooler housing that doesn't crack like the 14s. Doesn't have the nav which is a good thing (it sucks). Has 4.10s (YES). Has leather (it's nice trust me). Only thing you're missing out on is the auto temp. Which is nice but benefits outweigh the negatives here

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Also! It is very easy to swap in the auto temp control. All you do is swap the knobs. Plug and play. When I looked into it a while ago it was something like 2-300 bucks. Not bad

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Also! It is very easy to swap in the auto temp control. All you do is swap the knobs. Plug and play. When I looked into it a while ago it was something like 2-300 bucks. Not bad

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