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(I didn't find a better forum for future Wranglers so I put it here)

8 Speed Transmission is Coming...

"Automotive News reported this week that the 2018 Wrangler would feature an eight-speed automatic transmission that would boost fuel efficiency by nearly ten percent."

Aluminum Body is a Possibility...
"Whether that's enough to avoid the conversion to an aluminum body remains to be seen."

Maybe Aluminum Won't Be Used (this time)...
"But the same publication has cited sources who say the lighter metal is no longer a consideration for future Wrangler production."

Problems with the Current Toledo Production Plant...
"The current Wrangler plant that we've been running since 2006 is not large enough anymore to build enough Wranglers to meet demand."

Toledo Plant Retooling, If Required Would be Cost-Prohibitive...
"Fiat-Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne has warned retooling the Toledo plant would be cost-prohibitive if the company decided the new model would be made of aluminum, sparking fear Toledo would lose the iconic model altogether, because production would move elsewhere"

And the Root of the Problem...
"Automakers are under pressure to improve fuel efficiency and meet tougher future government standards."


Link to story: Keep Jeep campaign stages Wrangler Rally | 1370 WSPD
 

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I wouldn't necessarily call that a problem. If they can make a jeep that maintains the same capability while being lighter and more fuel efficient, I'd say go for it. All it'll do is save me money on gas that I can then go spend on mods :D
 

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We should sticky this and add to it later! Perhaps add *Rumors* after tho :)
 

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Jeep CEO Mike Manley said Thursday the company is evaluating whether to offer a pickup version of a Wrangler as the company decides where to build the next-generation SUV.

Manley hinted that a Wrangler pickup could eventually become part of the Jeep lineup after the next generation model is launched.

"I am a huge fan of a pickup truck in the Jeep brand. Not just because of the history -- it has been part of our history over the years -- but also because it is one of the top subjects of topics that we have for discussion with our customers," Manley said.

Manley made the comments about a possible Jeep pickup on the same day that the company revealed the Jeep Wrangler Red Rock Responder -- a pickup concept version of the Wrangler.

The Responder is one of seven concept Jeep SUVS the company plans to take to the Easter Jeep Safari -- an annual gathering of thousands of Jeep enthusiasts that occurs at the end of this month in Moab, Utah.

If the company makes a Wrangler pickup, it would do so as part of the development of the next-generation Wrangler, which is already underway.
 

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Jeep Red Rock Responder




Of Jeep’s 2015 Moab Easter Safari concepts, the modded Jeeps it plans to bring to the annual Easter Jeep Safari off-road party in Moab, this Red Rock Responder concept is the only one that leaves us scratching our heads. Sure, it has presence with those beadlock rims, 37-inch tires, and red paint job, but the thing’s pseudo pickup bed looks more than a little, er, strange.

In this case, the junk isn’t so much in the trunk as it is the trunk. Make no mistake—we think Jeep Wrangler–based pickups are the coolest, but this one’s tall, faired-in bed gives the Responder a butt-heavy look. Oh, and it erases any chance the driver has to—pardon the pun—respond to anything in the rig’s blind spot.

Jeep Wrangler Responder concept

Style rant out of the way, we should point out that the Responder is intended to be a functional piece. It’s equipped to schlep first responders and other emergency workers to boulder-strewn areas quickly—and to hold their stuff. There are cargo boxes in the rear stocked with an air hose, a high-lift jack, a fire extinguisher, a first-aid kit, tools, a recovery kit, and a roadside-emergency kit. Inside, there are red-and-black leather seats and all-weather floor mats.

The Jeep itself is equipped with Dana 60 axles, Fox shocks, a four-inch suspension lift, a Warn winch, LED lighting, Wrangler Rubicon 10th Anniversary Edition front and rear bumpers, high-top fenders, and prototype rock rails. If you dig the bumpers and fender flares, they’re available in Jeep’s accessories catalog, although the Responder’s custom tail isn’t.



One thing this Wrangler-based Responder surely isn’t is fast—it uses the same 3.6-liter Pentastar V-6 and five-speed automatic transmission as the regular Wrangler, albeit with a cold-air intake. Those big tires, heavy-duty axles, and the custom bed, however, are bound to drag down response times.
 

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Gnarly Jeep Chief Concept Brings the Beach Vibe Anywhere



Three days ago, the C/D office lost its collective mind over an insanely clean 1977 Jeep Cherokee Chief that popped up for sale on the internet. Pristine in nearly every measure, the Chief escaped our grasp and was awarded to a higher bidder (for nearly $27,000). But just as we were coming to terms with losing sight of that Chief, Jeep went and unveiled the Chief concept, a modern take on the classic Cherokee Chief that plunged many of us back into a deep internal dialogue regarding the existential relationship between the heart, the mind, the wallet, and vintage-4×4 ownership.

Created for the forty-ninth-annual Easter Jeep Safari in Moab, Utah, the Chief’s unmistakable razor grille and chrome bumper are sure to trigger a déjà vu moment even in casual observers. A rich coat of sublime Ocean Blue paint perfectly conjures up a ’70s California beach vibe. Although the hue appears similar to a factory AMC/Jeep color of yore, Mark Allen, head of Jeep brand design, tells us it’s fresh from the color lab. The 17-inch classic slotted-mag wheels wearing 37-inch tires fall right in line with the design ethos. Motivation is provided by the corporate 3.6-liter Pentastar V-6 mated to a six-speed manual. Mopar’s Jeep Performance Parts provides a cold-air intake for the V-6.



Based on the Wrangler Unlimited, the Chief concept’s doors and windshield were chopped two inches and a restyled roof channels the vintage Chief two-door’s look, as does the elimination of the exterior handles for the rear doors. The lack of C-pillars creates a long rear side window that continues the theme—or it would if the window had any glass, but it doesn’t and neither does the tailgate; hey, when you’re living the minimalistic beach life, the less between you and the ocean breezes the better, right? A Mopar two-inch lift kit with Fox shocks gives the Chief a slightly enhanced vertical perspective, and Dana 44 axles (also sourced from Mopar) with locking diffs provide a sturdy base for the Chief.

The interior takes the beach theme to Hawaii, with floral-pattern seats in pink, blue, and white reportedly inspired by Tom Selleck’s iconic Hawaiian shirts as worn on Magnum P.I. Rosewood slats lend an air of vintage class to the cargo area, and any doubts about the influence Magnum P.I. had on the team will be squashed when you open the tailgate and find Selleck’s mug incorporated into the side panels. Vintage surfer logos are found on the console and the door handles, and a tiki-style shifter handle drives home the point.

While we’re always interested to see what the talented Jeep designers, engineers, and builders cook up for the annual off-road buffet known as the Easter Jeep Safari, it has been a while since a single model resonated so universally through our office. Who’s up for Carlsbad this weekend?

 

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PRIVATE! Fall In and Salute This Ridiculously Awesome Jeep Staff Car Concept



Every spring, Jeep rolls out a treasure basket’s worth of deliciously awesome concept cars at Chrysler headquarters in Auburn Hills, Michigan, before packing them up and shipping them to the annual Easter Jeep Safari off-roading bonanza in Moab, Utah. This year, Jeep’s crop of Moab concepts didn’t disappoint, but this incredible military-themed, Wrangler-based Staff Car concept is reducing us to blubbering, slobbering idiots. Can someone get a drill sergeant over here, stat? We need someone to slap us out of it.



Modeled after a World War II–era “staff car”—the usually open-topped vehicle officers and generals were shuttled around in—the concept barely resembles the four-door Wrangler Unlimited that lies beneath. That’s probably because the term “four-door” doesn’t really even apply. There aren’t any doors. Instead, there’s a long void in the body side where people can simply slide in and out of the front and rear cloth bench seats. This is, we believe, especially useful for those times when you need to get out of the thing right freakin’ now. Like, perhaps, when a grenade is tossed your way. Speaking of grenades, the Staff Car comes with one of those; it stands in for the (manual!) shift knob, and we’re pretty sure it’s been decommissioned.

Jeep’s designers had a new roll cage welded in, and it stretches from the back-seat area to the windshield header. There’s no B-pillar, which is just the coolest. Nearly every visible surface inside and out was painted a desert-beige color that was, according to Jeep, inspired by the color of a certain cardboard box that caught a designer’s eye. The wheels are potentially the raddest-looking steel rims ever fitted to a modern Jeep, and they’re wrapped in genuine 35-inch Firestone NDT (non-directional tread) military tires. (Side note for current Jeep owners: These tires are available to civilians, and on several websites we found them on sale for just $127 apiece. If we had a Wrangler, it’d have this wheel/tire package.) Details like the blackout lights, flat fenders, and rear-mounted spare tire and jerry can were inspired by the original military Jeep, and we were told the seats lack headrests because “the original Jeep didn’t have ’em.”



We love it when form prevails over function, although it is worth noting that General George S. Patton ultimately succumbed to injuries sustained when his Cadillac staff car was involved in a minor crash with another military vehicle and his head hit a glass partition in the vehicle. Had that car had headrests, Patton might’ve lasted a bit longer into the postwar period. But that’s neither here nor there—we’d gladly trundle around off-road or through town in a Jeep built out like this Staff Car concept. It’s just so flagrantly misaligned with today’s production-car realities and its detailing so incredible (look at the whip antenna, the shovels, and the “WR/4-N-GL.3R” vehicle I.D. tag on the hood) we have to love it.
 

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Maybe they can figure out how to make a dam headlight that works
 

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The Wrangler Africa is the star of the Jeep concepts

Everyone's got their unmentionables in a twist over the Jeep Chief concept, and for good reason. The thing's as rad as they come, but if I'm going off road and I'm taking one of the new Easter Jeep Safari baddies with me, the Wrangler Africa is going to be my whip of choice. Why?

Let's start at the bottom and work our way up.



Steel. Wheels. I've had a handful of Wrangler testers, and subjected them all to the horrors of Windrock OHV park. They all came from the factory with gorgeous aluminum alloy wheels, and none of them survived the rock gardens without at least one gnarly scar. Steel isn't light, but it is durable and cheap, making it the perfect material for off-road rollers that do more than clog the Starbucks parking lot.

The wheels are wrapped in 35-inch BFGoodrich mud terrain tires. That's considerably taller than stock, helping to add ground clearance and negate some of the drawbacks of the long wheelbase Wrangler. The two-inch lift, with its Fox shocks, doesn't hurt either.



There are a set of proven Dana 44 axles front and rear, though Jeep doesn't say anything about whether or not the sticks come with lockers. The beefier front axle is a good thing with the larger tires, and the torque from the 2.8-liter turbo-diesel engine.

That's right, I said the magic words: turbo diesel. The 2.8-liter mill is small and fairly lightweight, but still manages to make big torque low in the rev range, right where you need it when it comes time to scramble over an obstacle. The extra fuel economy will also help you stay out longer, as will the auxiliary fuel tanks. Win.

Add in body protection like hood-to-roof guy wires, rock rails, and a high-clearance, steel front bumper, and you're good to tackle everything but the meatiest of trails. Oh, and if you do happen to get stuck, there's a winch up front to help yank you out.

Keep your Chief. I'm taking the Wrangler Africa.





 

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Jeep Grand Cherokee Overlander Concept Can Get Away from It All—and Stay Away




For the Jeep Grand Cherokee, the difference between an Overland and an Overlander is greater than one might think. The Overland is the penultimate trim level for the Grand Cherokee, slotting just below the Summit. (Price-wise, both of them live in the shadow of the SRT, but that’s a different animal altogether.) The Overlander, meanwhile, is a custom Grand Cherokee concept that is part of Jeep’s lineup for this year’s Easter Jeep Safari in Moab.

The Overlander starts out as a Grand Cherokee in outdoorsy sage green. It’s powered by the 3.0-liter diesel V-6 and equipped with the available air suspension. That latter is tweaked to provide a one-inch-greater ride height while still allowing the full range of motion. A custom front fascia enables a steeper approach angle, while the SRT hood is just there to look cool. To further enhance the Overlander’s off-road chops, Jeep has fitted the concept with a 9000-pound winch, skid plates, rock rails, and tow hooks. The wheel wells have been opened up to make room for the gnarly, 34-inch tires. Cables running from the roof to the hood are “limb risers,” meant to move brush out of the way.

Once you’ve made it to that most remote of campsites, pop the clamshell tent for two on the Overlander’s roof, and you’ve got a place to bed down for the night. Alternately, one can fire up the LED light bar, which is bright enough to turn night into day.

 

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Jeep Dressed Up the Renegade and Cherokee for Easter Safari, Too



After drooling over the awesome Wrangler concepts Jeep built for this year’s Easter Safari, the customized Cherokee and Renegade the company brought along seem a little lackluster by comparison. But while we’d love to daydream about bashing through the wilderness in the Africa or Staff Car concepts, the baby Jeeps we saw today are probably a bit more in line with the demands of reality.

The Jeep Cherokee Canyon Trail and Renegade Desert Hawk wear matching color schemes—a tough looking Desert Tan hue with matte black accents. Both get Jeep’s gimmicky but still cool topographical-map hood decals depicting legendary Moab trails, Hell’s Revenge on the Cherokee, and Fins and Things on the Renegade. Each is tattooed on the flank with a Jeep Performance Parts badge as well, perhaps to remind you who to call when you’ve bashed your soft-roader’s undercarriage on a pernicious rock.



The Cherokee Canyon Trail is somewhat convincingly beefed-up, wearing Jeep Performance Parts off-road rock rails and a host of skid plates for the fuel tank, underbody, oil pan, and front suspension. Sitting on 30.5-inch BFGoodrich All Terrain tires on concept 17-inch wheels, the Canyon Trail rides a full half-inch higher than your run-of-the-mill Cherokee.





The wee Renegade Desert Hawk gets a similar complement of rock rails and skid plates, along with a Mopar trailer hitch receiver and roof rack. Inside, both the Renegade and big brother Cherokee feature Mopar Katzkin leather upholstery, body-color dash accents, and some pragmatic if unsexy floor mats.

Truth be told, we would dig these concept Jeeps deeply if they hadn’t been paraded out behind some truly jaw-dropping Wrangler-based show-stealers. As it stands, let’s call them what they are: Sensible soft-roaders with just a dash of black-and-tan attitude. Given how little off-roading most 4×4 owners actually endeavor, we’d say these two Jeeps are plenty capable for all but the most dedicated rock bashers.
 

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So, these are all committed models, and not merely show concepts?
 

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They are show vehicles..."concept vehicles" but we can be sure we'll see some of the features in these Jeeps in the next Jeep Wrangler which is (still) supposed to be made using a lot of aluminum and an 8-speed transmission for better MPGs.

Rumors I heard also said no more folding windshield not that many will miss that.
 

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Spare wheel under the floor on the Wrangler Africa. Nononononono. Other than that, agree with everything.
I agree they should throw the spare up on the bonnet like land rovers of old or put it in n the side like olds CJs.
 
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