Has anyone had this company's bumper they have great pricing but do not have any knowledge of there quality thanks for your help
Cant wait to see it I hope everthing looks good the powder coating and qualiry of the bumper if so i will probably get one too thanksReceived the bumper. Will open later tonight. Can tell you that it is large and heavy!
I think they are a relatively new company. The look of their bumpers is very nice and the prices are amazing if it is good quality. I'll know soon enough. I'll probably start pulling the old bumper off. That's about a 15 minute job since I've pulled it twice before to install and eventually replace a backup camera I have in the OEM bumper. Will probably mount camera on the hitch. Won't install the Havoc bumper until the cube lights come in on Friday, since they have to be installed in bumper prior to mounting bumper on Jeep. Will get all my wiring for lights routed to bumper between now and then (already have switches and relays in place, and wire pulled to rear of Jeep, just need to route it outside to bumper at this point). The only thing really keeping me from having this done tomorrow night is waiting for the lights to be delivered on Friday.
Will keep you posted and update when I open up the boxes.
Sounds and looks good cant wait to see it together and on your rideJust unpacked the main bumper. Extremely nice. Welds are great, lines are good. Cutouts for LED lights are equidistant and clean. Logo cutout is clean. Solid steel and a nice, even powder coating job. Had two nicks from shipping that I touched up (both very small, and if rust wouldn't present a problem, wouldn't have been worth bothering with). Nothing big or in a very conspicuous area, so I don't think it will be a big deal at all.
Haven't opened the box with carrier frame yet, but so far, I'm very impressed and happy that I took the chance with them (so far). We'll see how tight the install is and if the carrier fits and works as advertised. To this point, I'm encouraged that I got an excellent deal and am going to be very happy when all is said and done.
Some closeups of the welds.
1. There is a threaded female where the cap mounts on the carrier that mates with the set screw on the aluminum cap (there are no threads in the cap itself), so no, you can't change the alignment unless you drill and tap your own female threads on the backside of the carrier). In the video install instructions, it suggests a coating of RTV inside the cap (which I did) to help seal it. That will also help secure it, but obviously that could also be peeled away, but it would take a bit more time than three twists with a philips head.Hey that was a great write up,so i think im going to get the stubby front and the rear too. Im just wondering if i might get the one without the tire carrier and go with teraflex body mount carrier because i will want the tailgate to open all the way for mounted stove,all though your way would be almost $400 cheaper so im torn. I was wondering could you mount that aluminum cap to tire carrier with the screw side facing the tailgate so no one would rip it off. 2nd just double making sure you say there was no rattling with the tire mount because that was another reason i was thinking about the teraflex body mount style.
Thanks a lot or your help
Thanks a lot for all the info it has been very helpful1. There is a threaded female on the spindle that mates with the set screw on the aluminum cap (there are no threads in the cap itself), so no, you can't change the alignment unless you drill and tap your own female threads on the backside of the carrier). In the video install instructions, it suggests a coating of RTV inside the cap (which I did) to help seal it. That will also help secure it, but obviously that could also be peeled away, but it would take a bit more time than three twists with a philips head.
2. The tire carrier is rock solid in the way it's attached to the tailgate. When you install the Heim Joint, you adjust how tight the carrier is relative to the tailgate. You want it to begin to tighten up the last few inches before shutting the tailgate latched, but not too tight that it won't shut. This ensures the tire carrier is closely mated to the bumpstop. I didn't hear any rattling, squeaks, clunks, or anything that would make me think I had anything different from the OEM bumper and carrier installed. If full range of opening the tailgate is a need for you, then you may want to reach out to Havoc and ask them if what I'm experiencing is normal or if it should open 100% (and let me know). I may need to adjust mine, but I don't see any way that it would be possible to have the Heim joint adjusted for proper tension AND allow full motion of the gate.
Of course, time will be the ultimate test if this holds up or develops any rattles, etc., and I won't know that for awhile.