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So, I've posted this before...(didn't sell last time)
I've got a buyer for my hardtop ( don't know why I'm afraid to sell this thing...feel like I'm gonna miss it) .
He's picking it up tomorrow.....
I still have no idea which top to get.
With the Rampage I can get everything ( sailcloth, header, tailgate bar and extra tonneau from amazon for $420)
With the Softopper I've heard nothing bad. Only issues I have is cost, and smaller windows. Everything shipped $540+ USA

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Ha, yeah my Tigers had a great season and Great AL Championship...wtf happened in the World series...i have no idea.


Just loking for reviews, ideas etc. I've read most of the previous post on here about the different tops...just loking for any additional input.

I read softoper is better but a $100 plus more expensive.
 

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So you're thinking softopper?
 

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My softopper with tinted windows (I got the one without door surrounds) was $550 shipped, and I couldn't be happier with it. It's generally quieter than my loose, worn out old soft top. It was easy to put on the first time around, with the eye bolts in the rear being the trickiest part.



The latest and most informative thread is here: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/softopper-came-in-the-mail-189465.html
 

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Another thing, it's made here in the US (Bolder, Co, IIRC), all parts are replaceable. Sail cloth and the windows haven't been an issue as far as being able to see out of them.
 

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You might find that you won't miss the hardtop at all. Mine hung in the garage for a year before I finally sold it. Even when I did put it on I couldn't wait to take it back off.

Softopper looks like a great product, but I can't get past the small windows myself. My trektop has been great outside of a few annoyances, but I 'might' look into the rampage version when this one wears out. I'm not crazy about their straps on the back, but window storage would be a huge plus.


 

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I swear by the Rampage frameless top, I looked at the bestop one but couldnt bring myself to spend the extra cash on a top that I couldnt easily bring the windows with me in case of a sudden storm. Plus I think the rampage top looks better as a safari top, what I mean is it looks more like a standard safari top, and not just a top with the windows off. I usually leave it in safari mode and only put the full top on if its a 50% or more chance of rain, and I will have the kids, otherwise its safari mode all the time. Either way you go you will be happy with it, if you will have the windows on alot then the bestop is prolly better, if you just want to have the option of putting the windows on when you need them, go with the rampage.

BTW heres my rampage with tonneau:
 

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Softtopper. I am both pleased and disappointed with my Softtopper. Here is my experience.

The good:
1.) The top is made with good material using solid construction techniques.
2.) It is very easy and quick to remove and reinstall the windows.
3.) I have had no water intrusion even in some of Oregon's worth rain storms.
4.) I thought the small windows were ugly at first, but they line up with the bottoms of the door windows and the look quickly grew on me.

The not so good:
1.) I had many problems with the driver's side window panel. a.) The fit of the original panel was very tight at the front corner of the door surround. You can see where its pulled tight in the photo of the red Jeep above, so it wasn't just mine (the passenger side window fits perfectly). b.) This tight corner was also digging into the door gasket every time I opened and closed the door. c.) in addition to all of this, some of the stitching on the rear of the original panel pulled loose as I was fitting it to the vehicle. d.) With all of these problems, I contacted the company via email describing the problems and included detailed pictures. They were very responsive and quickly sent me an entirely new driver's side panel. (They also offered a full refund but I didn't feel that the problems warranted such a step so I declined.) The new panel fits much better and doesn't drag on the the gasket. Unfortunately its still not as good a fit as the passenger's side is and still exhibits some tension in that spot.
2.) The plastic strips on the fronts of the side panels that insert into the door surrounds were too long for me to attach to the surrounds. A quick cut with tinsnips fixed this, but it was still an annoyance, even if it was just minor. The replacement panel did not have this problem.
3.) The replacement panel had a velcro strap installed backwards so that it wouldn't grab the top where it overlapped. I made a back-to-back piece of velcro that did the job. Not really a big deal, but you'd think in a case where I had already reported the numerous the quality control issues above that the replacement would have been perfect. It wasn't.
4.) There is a strap assembly on the top's inside that allows you to tighten up the top. The black side is supposed to be the visible side, but they installed it reverse side down so I see the white backside of the assembly and all of the stitching. Kinda ugly.

Overall, I can't enthusiastically endorse the Softopper, but I can say that the quality control issues were not severe enough for me to want to send it back, regret the purchase, or attempt to talk someone out of purchasing their own. I am somewhat embarrassed though that a US-made product has the stereotypical QA/QC issues that we Americans usually attribute to cheaper foreign products. Hopefully my experience is in the minority.

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Sailcloth soft top absorbs water? - JeepForum.com

Might want to read this before spending the money. My favorite part is when the rep tells him to pound sand.
Trigger Pulled!:punk:

Will all of the reviews, pro, cons etc that has been said about all of the tops, I decided to go with Softopper.
Made in USA, from what I hear outstanding customer service. So i feel comfortable that if something is a mess or I don't like something about it they will help out. Thanks for all the help....
For what it's worth....The Rampage was really close to being ordered.
 

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I was disappointed in the little annoying issues with mine, but in the end I will probably order another one when this one wears out (if it wears out...its garaged). Please let us know if you encounter similar issues or if it is a trouble-free installation.

Keith
 

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Fireaxe, feel free to PM me if you have any questions. Be happy to help you with it.
 

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Trigger Pulled!:punk:

Will all of the reviews, pro, cons etc that has been said about all of the tops, I decided to go with Softopper.
Made in USA, from what I hear outstanding customer service. So i feel comfortable that if something is a mess or I don't like something about it they will help out. Thanks for all the help....
For what it's worth....The Rampage was really close to being ordered.
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Good choice :wavey:
 

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Good thing you picked soft topper, not sure if anyone mentioned this or not, but the Rampage is for the SQUARE upper doors ONLY. And the Softopper is for the ROUND upper doors ONLY. So if you are going hard to soft, you have to go Softopper, unless you want to but square uppers if you have half doors. If you have hard doors, your only option is Softopper......
 

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Good thing you picked soft topper, not sure if anyone mentioned this or not, but the Rampage is for the SQUARE upper doors ONLY. And the Softopper is for the ROUND upper doors ONLY. So if you are going hard to soft, you have to go Softopper, unless you want to but square uppers if you have half doors. If you have hard doors, your only option is Softopper......
Um....yea.....i just did a google image search and saw a bunch that had full doors with the rampage frameless..... Just sayin.....
 

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Um....yea.....i just did a google image search and saw a bunch that had full doors with the rampage frameless..... Just sayin.....
FYI, you probly saw something like this

Rampage Frameless Soft Top Kit With Door Skins & Surrounds, Black Diamond, Tinted Windows 109435

Read the note: "Please Note: Works With Square Corner Upper Doors ONLY! No Full Steel Doors!"

The part number for the Rampage Frameless Soft Top for YJ is 109435, I can guarantee you that it is square upper only.

Look a little closer on those pictures, you will see that they are TJs not YJs...
 
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