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I have a 92 YJ and I always see YJ's with a ridiculous amount of travel. Mine does not. My suspension is as hard as a rock. It feels like everything is welded together. How can I loosen it up?
 

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1. Remove track bars
2. Remove sway bar, or get disconnects.
3. Boomerang, or revolver shackles.
4. Check your bump stops and shocks; make sure they are not holding you back.
5. Take you jeep out on some crazy trails to give your suspension a work out. The leafs always start out real stiff, but with some flexing, it will loosen up a bit.
 

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I have sway and trac bars removed on my YJ and drive it to work everyday. It leans more when you turn, but it is also predictable and didn't take long at all to get used to. It basically makes it similar to the old CJ set up.
 

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How does removing the track bars affect the on road drivability?
I also removed my track bars years ago. Front sway bar is gone. And I run revolver shackles. I have a mild lift, just 3", with leaf springs. It's been at least 10 years, and I drive my YJ almost every day. What I did is not a warranty for what anyone might do to their YJ.

IMO, if you are aware you are driving a modified vehicle with larger tires (I'm running 33x10.5r15) that will take longer to stop and can be "squirrelly", and you're able to handle that, then you are OK. If you have the socialist mentality that anything you do is the responsibility of someone else, well, don't make any changes. The trade off is much better performance in the dirt, with the responsibility of driving with awareness and practice.

Make one change at a time, get used to it and try something else. The sway bars are the biggest single change when it is first done. If it makes you nervous, get disconnects for the sway bar.
 

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I have sway and trac bars removed on my YJ and drive it to work everyday. It leans more when you turn, but it is also predictable and didn't take long at all to get used to. It basically makes it similar to the old CJ set up.
I also removed my track bars years ago. Front sway bar is gone. And I run revolver shackles. I have a mild lift, just 3", with leaf springs. It's been at least 10 years, and I drive my YJ almost every day. What I did is not a warranty for what anyone might do to their YJ.

IMO, if you are aware you are driving a modified vehicle with larger tires (I'm running 33x10.5r15) that will take longer to stop and can be "squirrelly", and you're able to handle that, then you are OK. If you have the socialist mentality that anything you do is the responsibility of someone else, well, don't make any changes. The trade off is much better performance in the dirt, with the responsibility of driving with awareness and practice.

Make one change at a time, get used to it and try something else. The sway bars are the biggest single change when it is first done. If it makes you nervous, get disconnects for the sway bar.
I have a 92 YJ and I always see YJ's with a ridiculous amount of travel. Mine does not. My suspension is as hard as a rock. It feels like everything is welded together. How can I loosen it up?
to 88sahara and amx4080 Thanks, that's what I figgured and was hoping the answer was.

thejag5, not trying to steal your thread. hopfully you got some good info too! :)
 

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I was super skeptical about doing the same to my yj and I sit really high. I cut my track bar out completely and just zip tied my sway up out of the way. I have not been worried driving it at all. And have not had any problems. Been about 3 weeks now. Doing the high steer helped a lot with the "squirrel " part. Also am not running shocks but I don't mind to much right now.
 

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i posted this up regarding trac bars on another forum.. its regarding trac bars on leaf sprung axles
darkproximity said:
Call them a track bar, trac bar, panhard bar, or call them the bar that holds your axle under your rig! (But don't get it confused with a traction bar) There is much to be spoken of them especially on our YJs! I hope to make this as simple to understand as possible and to explain why they simply aren't necessary on a leaf sprung axle.

The whole point, or job if you may of the track bar on a vehicle is to center an axle left to right; or laterally under the vehicle. In the case of a typical coil sprung suspension; as you would see standard on any jeep vehicle with a coil sprung axle, this particular link in the suspension system is vital. Without it the axle would wobble horribly from side to side, and the only thing keeping it from completely coming out from under the vehicle would be the sway bar end links, drive shaft, and the control arms. If you're familiar with such a setup you'd see immediate disaster as those components are not designed to hold the axle in place.

However, looking at a leaf sprung axle you will see there are 3 points of contact both leaf packs make; at the frame hangers, at the axle perches, and at the shackle ends. This suspension while not only providing up and down movement for the axle, will also serve the purpose of centering the axle just by its inherent design.

Now you may be saying, "Well that's just great and dandy, but I'd rather just keep mine on!" I will give you a great reason, even if you do not off-road your YJ, why it's a great idea to ditch them all together! As I stated earlier, leaf springs in their traditional setup (IE. normal bushings) only want to move up and down, this is how they articulate. A track bar on the other hand, which is mounted to the frame, and one side of the axle, wants to move in an arc between those two points and perpendicular to the leaf springs. As your suspension travels, straight up, or straight down, the track bar also moves, but again, the track bar must move in an arc, and cannot follow straight up, or straight down, thus causing the suspension to bind. This can even effect your suspensions ability to cycle normally on road.
 

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Mine are gone and I haven't really noticed any difference. My sway is on. The only difference is going over bumps. It feels like there is ACTUALLY suspension underneath!!! It flexes and absorbs the bumps now, rather than kinda just bouncing over them.

There are very few vehicles that come equipped with track bars on leaf sprung axles nowadays. I think Toyota is the only company that still does a "track bar", which is just a simple cable that can flex and doesn't bind up in the system at full flex (stock suspension).
 

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So the track bar goes diagonal? And the sway bar is curved with a joint that connects to a straight bar that connects to the axle?
 

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So the track bar goes diagonal? And the sway bar is curved with a joint that connects to a straight bar that connects to the axle?
Yep. I took track off and made discos for the sway bar. It's a little more "floaty" but take it slow and you will be fine. Also I'm not running any steering stabilizer. I don't know if that really matters though. Good luck and be careful.
 

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Yep. I took track off and made discos for the sway bar. It's a little more "floaty" but take it slow and you will be fine. Also I'm not running any steering stabilizer. I don't know if that really matters though. Good luck and be careful.
What do you mean by "floaty"? Do you mean smoother ride? Or it leans more when you turn? Or a little less stable? Or what?
 

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Here are a couple pics of my CJ. It has YJ springs. The springs and shackles are Old Man Emu. I do not have track or sway bars. I'm very happy with the flex.
 

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id say start by removing the rear trac bar. drive it and see what you think.then go for disconnecting the front sway bars and get it out on the highway and some curvy roads to test the waters . i think by floaty he means when you make small driving adjustments or react to road conditions the jeep istnt gonna ''feel like its on rails'' so to speak , not that they normally do but honestly it will be a softer delayed reaction , sort of like the jeep it self has had a few beers to drink.haha this should be a remove and test thing if ya dont like the way the rig responds just reinstall and try something else . happy jeepin
 
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