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I really didn't have a catchy title for my build. Some folks name their Jeeps. I'm not that creative. I've self identified as a car monkey for most of my life so now that I'm a JK owner and obsessed with the thing, I guess I can call myself a Jeep Monkey.

I bought a 2017 JK back at Thanksgiving. It was all stock minus a couple of cosmetic upgrades from the previous owner. She was a munitions specialist in the Air Force and had installed American flag grill, spare cover, and tail light covers. After getting it home, I Started by upgrading the headlights and turn signals to JW Speaker components, and swapped out the fog lights for Xprite LED fogs. I installed some rubber floor mats because I intended to use it off road. Finally, I knew tires would be a good upgrade before winter so I installed some 285/70 Patagonia MT's on Rubicon wheels. This is how I rolled for 4 months, enjoying every minute.

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After finishing some upgrades to my wife's JKU, I was finally able to start modifying the JK. I bought a big wooden crate from Mopar, some control arms and track bars from Currie, exhaust from magnaflow, fenders from MCE, and ARB front and Smittybilt rear bumpers. I knocked out the exhaust first. I like it. Gives a little growl you can hear with the windows down but otherwise not intrusive. Then I moved to the big Mopar box. I installed the parts over 3 days. Rear the first evening. Front the second. Then torqued all of the fasteners with the Jeep back on the ground the 3rd day.

So here I am. Next step is to install the bumpers. I'm currently shopping for some 6" - 8" round lights that are street legal to mount in front of the winch plate. I'm also eyeing some 35" or 315/70's to better fill the wheel wells and give me some additional clearance. The whole point of this JK is to use it. It's been great to share something I love with the people I love. My wife has her own Jeep but we've spent time deciding on what modifications she'd like me to make to hers, even though it's a mall crawler. And my college and middle school aged kids love going places in the JK. My son who is in 6th grade has a huge smile every day when I pick him up from school.

I noticed something though. I don't go out looking for mud, but the mud always seems to find me.

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Started to install my new ARB stubby bumper only to find that one side looked like it was scraped on the pavement. The powder coat was scraped off and the metal gouged. This is the 6th bumper that has arrived damaged between my wife's front bumper and my front/rear bumpers. I'm fairly certain that the issue is the company that's used to deliver them but I have not influence there.

With that a no-go, I decided to remove my spare tire. Overall I like the JKS tailgate vent plate but it's not perfect. The finish on the bottom corners could be a little more consistent, smoother. The finish on the rest of the plate is fine. Also, I would have preferred black bolts instead of stainless.

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The 33's were looking small to me so I had my eye out for some 35" tires. Ran across a set of JL Rubicon wheels with low mile 35" Wildpeak MT's so I sold my wheels and tires and picked up the new set. Both the Patagonias and the Wildpeaks are E load. The Patagonias are quieter and absorb road impacts better. The Wildpeaks feel like they handle a little more stable on road, and seem just as smooth as the Pats when there aren't lots of pot holes. Can't wait to get them on the trails.

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Thanks. It's a Mopar 2" lift. With stock bumpers I saw an increase of 4" front and 3" rear. The ARB dropped the front ~1/8". I haven't installed a metal rear bumper yet but did remove the spare for around town.
 

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Sadly, I'm OCD about suspensions on my vehicles and often change components to fine tune and search for the perfect (for me) setup, so I replaced Mopar 2" lift springs with a set from Synergy. With the Mopar springs, the front sat a bit higher than I preferred. I thought about adding a small rear spacer but with plans to install flat fenders, I opted to look for a spring with slightly less lift. After reading some sparse but good reviews of Synergy, I opted to buy a set of their 1” JKU/2” JK springs. I hoped they would provide less lift front and rear but realistically expected about the same lift rear and slightly less front because synergy springs are designed to retain the factory rake. I also installed Synergy rear spring wedges which proved unnecessary. With the Mopar rear springs, there was a little bow but I think not enough to warrant the wedges.

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The Synergy front spring is 1” shorter than the Mopar front spring (used 350 miles) and provided .5” less lift, just what I was looking for. The Synergy rear spring is 7/8” longer than the Mopar spring. Combined with the wedges, resulted in 3/8” additional lift.

The net result is too much rake and a firmer ride. I suspect removing the wedges would put rear ride height just about where the Mopars were. I've read reports of folks seeing ~3/8" increase in rear height with the wedges. It is thought that the two are close in spring rate and my initial test drive with just the rears installed felt the same as with the Mopars, but stiffer once I added the fronts. I think that makes sense because while the Synergy spring is 1" shorter, the reduction in ride height is only 1/2".

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Looks good. I've been eyeballing the Synergy springs as well. I run heavy in the back so I like that they retain the rake on a stock/balanced jeep. That should keep me level or better. My Rancho 2" springs leave me with negative rake when I'm loaded up. Do you know how much actual lift you got? Specifically the front, spring perch to jounce cup like the diagram in the measuring thread?
 

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Looks good. I've been eyeballing the Synergy springs as well. I run heavy in the back so I like that they retain the rake on a stock/balanced jeep. That should keep me level or better. My Rancho 2" springs leave me with negative rake when I'm loaded up. Do you know how much actual lift you got? Specifically the front, spring perch to jounce cup like the diagram in the measuring thread?
I can try to take a measurement tomorrow. I measured differently, at the front of the pinch seam. With the Mopars, I saw 4", so calculate 3.5". That said, I don't know if 1" at the spring perch to jounce cup equates to 1" at the pinch seam.
 

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Thanks. It's really not that big of a deal, I was just curious. It seems like not many people run those springs. I'm trying to figure out if I would want their 2" or 3". I'm trying to get where I need to be for the eventual 37s that I'll put on (with MCE fenders) so I'm thinking 3ish actual up front. I actually got a little over 2.5" out of the Rancho springs, so I may just add spacers, I'm just not sure if the springs are long enough to stay seated at full droop with a longer shock.
 

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Thanks. It's really not that big of a deal, I was just curious. It seems like not many people run those springs. I'm trying to figure out if I would want their 2" or 3". I'm trying to get where I need to be for the eventual 37s that I'll put on (with MCE fenders) so I'm thinking 3ish actual up front. I actually got a little over 2.5" out of the Rancho springs, so I may just add spacers, I'm just not sure if the springs are long enough to stay seated at full droop with a longer shock.
I measured earlier but didn't write it down so not sure about the front. I believe is was 21-3/8" from bottom shock bolt to top mount and 12-3/8 from the spring pad to top flange with the 8063-10, but need to recheck. The rears were 8-1/2" with the 8064-10 springs and correction wedges on my 2dr.
 

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Thanks a bunch. It sounds like it's right at 3" in the front and 3.5" in the rear with the wedges. I think that would work for me. I think would sag them a tiny bit more than you in the rear due to my spare and steel carrier (RH4x4). And then when fully loaded or pulling my trailer would hopefully be at least level.
 

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Thanks a bunch. It sounds like it's right at 3" in the front and 3.5" in the rear with the wedges. I think that would work for me. I think would sag them a tiny bit more than you in the rear due to my spare and steel carrier (RH4x4). And then when fully loaded or pulling my trailer would hopefully be at least level.
Spare and carrier will certainly have an impact. Also note that my rear bumper weighs just over 100 pounds vs the stocker at ~10 pounds (not weighed, just feels super light!).

I installed the Rancho 2" kit on my wife's JKU and it was a bit too tall for her. It definitely leveled it out as you said, with the front lifted 1" more than the rear. Have you considered adding a 1" spacer on top of your rear springs?

The Synergy's are definitely longer than the Ranchos, if that's important to you, and I believe have a lower spring rate. Our front Rancho springs were the same height as the stockers but lifted 2.5". The Synergy's feel close to the Mopars, slightly stiffer.
 

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The 33's were looking small to me so I had my eye out for some 35" tires. Ran across a set of JL Rubicon wheels with low mile 35" Wildpeak MT's so I sold my wheels and tires and picked up the new set. Both the Patagonias and the Wildpeaks are E load. The Patagonias are quieter and absorb road impacts better. The Wildpeaks feel like they handle a little more stable on road, and seem just as smooth as the Pats when there aren't lots of pot holes. Can't wait to get them on the trails.
Did you use wheel spacers? If so .. what size? If not .. any rubbing?
 
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