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I just installed a Pioneer DEH-X6600BT into a 2006 LJ. I ran into the issue so many of you have mentioned above about the factory sub not working after the radio replacement. I've included some notes below for how I identified the factory sub amp wire, in case it might help someone else.

I've had this Jeep since it rolled off the factory floor, so I know that no one has screw dinked around with the dash wiring. The wire colors in the factory radio harness do NOT entirely match what they should be according to the factory service manual, or any of the documentation at Crutchfield's or Pioneers support. There is no blue wire with a white stripe, nor is there a white wire with a blue stripe in my factory harness.

I ended up reverse engineering the wire harness to identify the wires on the factory harness, then match them with the wires on the adapter for the new radio. Half of the harness is for the factory speakers. The other half has to do with power. I plugged in the factory radio, then identified the +12v power wire, the ignition power +12 wire, and ground. On the aftermarket adapter, there was a blue wire, but the Pioneer harness did not have anything to connect to this blue wire. As a test, I connected the factory radio, verified that the factory sub was working. Then snipped the corresponding factory wire that was mated to the unused blue wire in the adapter harness. WHALLA! The radio kept working, but the sub quit. Probably not the best way to do this, but it worked. I tested and verified the voltage of this wire to be +12v when the factory radio was turned on. Once I identified this correct wire, and confirmed that it mated to the blue wire in the aftermarket harness adapter, I knew I had the wire that ran the factory sub amp. I then spliced the wire back together, leaving the factory harness in tact.

Because the Pioneer deck harness did not have a Power Antenna wire, I had to connect the factory amp wire in the adapter harness to the ignition power cable wire in the harness adapter. This way the amp would get power anytime the Pioneer radio had power.

Works great, sounds... about the same as my factory radio (still have factory speakers). BTW... I had to replace the factory radio because I use my Jeep for what it was intended for (evil grin), so the factory radio has seen too many occasions of getting completely soaked!! Since we haven't completely destroyed the LJ, we are actually cleaning up the Jeep and making it a nice Jeep again. We'll still wheel it, but mainly just mild trails and sand dunes.
Most radio's have a remote wire. This is the wire that you use to connect to the amp for powering it. If not then the ignition wire turns the amp on at all times when the car is started, instead of just when the radio is on. The ignition wire is not the best solution, but it is an alternative.

The power antenna wire is not a good choice at all. Some people had this problem because the amp and sub only worked when the radio sent power to the antenna, and this was only when the FM/AM source was selected. Therefore, they got no power to the amp or sub for the CD or any other source except AM/FM.

Good catch on the sub wire though. I had trouble with identifying the factory wiring too. I just ran all new wires for all my speakers, and identified the radio ground and radio power wires with an electrical tester.
 

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Hey guys, I bought a 99 TJ and I put in a new stereo today. The problem I'm having is that the bracket behind the stereo is not there. When I opened it up, there was a wire bolted to the back of the stock stereo with a wire to the frame(I am guessing it's to the frame as I couldn't see exactly). Not having that bracket there makes it impossible to stabilize my new deck. It's just leaning over inside the open space. It also could be ripped out fairly easy.

Anyone know why the bracket isn't there? Is it a early model thing? Can I have one put in?
The aftermarket radio should have a sleeve. The sleeve has prongs on it that would be secured to the kit on the one din conversion. Nowadays, the radio's just have a threaded hole in the back of them for securing a bracket. You have to find the right size short threaded screw. You may have to string together multiple brackets, if you want to do it that way. And, then trying to secure it directly to the firewall might be difficult because the air system blocks the direct route to the firewall, and you may have to make a hole. Or, you can try to secure the bracket to the hole for the radio ground. I gave up trying to secure the bracket.

I brought the kit myself and used the prongs on my sleeve. This is the modern way. My installer didn't have the kit, so I brought it myself. Especially after this stupid installer sprayed adhesive all around my radio and EQ. The adhesive ruined my EQ and I had it replaced under the store warranty since they sent me to their installer. I got the kit and a new EQ and installed everything properly.
 

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Hey, I thought I should post an update...

The jumper I did with the ignition wire... bad idea. See my other post above. After sitting in the garage for several days, the battery would slowly drain to dead.

There was a blue wire on the included Pioneer wire harness labeled "Wired Remote". I assumed that this was for a remote control that was wired to the head unit. Apparently I assumed incorrectly. This wire should be labeled "Wired Remote Antenna"... meaning, the wire you would use to power a remote antenna that powered up and down when the radio was on or off. I tested this "Wired Remote" wire, and when the radio is off, there is no voltage. When you power the radio on it has a +12V power. I cut the tag off the end of the wire, and connected it to the power wire for the subwoofer amplifier... and WHALLA!! It actually works. Sitting idle in the garage for over a week doesn't drain the battery.

Anyway, I thought this might be some pretty important information to pass along after my incorrect post above. I hope this helps.
 

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I just installed a Pioneer DEH-X6600BT into a 2006 LJ. I ran into the issue so many of you have mentioned above about the factory sub not working after the radio replacement. I've included some notes below for how I identified the factory sub amp wire, in case it might help someone else.

I've had this Jeep since it rolled off the factory floor, so I know that no one has screw dinked around with the dash wiring. The wire colors in the factory radio harness do NOT entirely match what they should be according to the factory service manual, or any of the documentation at Crutchfield's or Pioneers support. There is no blue wire with a white stripe, nor is there a white wire with a blue stripe in my factory harness.

I ended up reverse engineering the wire harness to identify the wires on the factory harness, then match them with the wires on the adapter for the new radio. Half of the harness is for the factory speakers. The other half has to do with power. I plugged in the factory radio, then identified the +12v power wire, the ignition power +12 wire, and ground. On the aftermarket adapter, there was a blue wire, but the Pioneer harness did not have anything to connect to this blue wire. As a test, I connected the factory radio, verified that the factory sub was working. Then snipped the corresponding factory wire that was mated to the unused blue wire in the adapter harness. WHALLA! The radio kept working, but the sub quit. Probably not the best way to do this, but it worked. I tested and verified the voltage of this wire to be +12v when the factory radio was turned on. Once I identified this correct wire, and confirmed that it mated to the blue wire in the aftermarket harness adapter, I knew I had the wire that ran the factory sub amp. I then spliced the wire back together, leaving the factory harness in tact.

Because the Pioneer deck harness did not have a Power Antenna wire, I had to connect the factory amp wire in the adapter harness to the ignition power cable wire in the harness adapter. This way the amp would get power anytime the Pioneer radio had power.

Works great, sounds... about the same as my factory radio (still have factory speakers). BTW... I had to replace the factory radio because I use my Jeep for what it was intended for (evil grin), so the factory radio has seen too many occasions of getting completely soaked!! Since we haven't completely destroyed the LJ, we are actually cleaning up the Jeep and making it a nice Jeep again. We'll still wheel it, but mainly just mild trails and sand dunes.
Do your factory "sound bar" speakers work off the same amp as the factory sub? I just put a new deck in and the sub and rear speakers aren't working. My Kenwood came with a blue wire and a blue w/ white chaser wire. The blue/white is for an amp, while the solid blue is for an antenna. My wire factory harness adapter had a solid blue wire labeld "antenna" so I hooked the two solid blue wires together. Now I have no sub or sound bar speakers. Everything else matched up and works fine. I figured the overhead speakers were just "rear".

Sad part is I had the blue w/ white and blue hooked together once, then noticed they didn't match and cut them apart! I will try your trick and see how it goes in the morning!

Thanks.
 

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Ok, I'm going to reply, but you have to know that I am truly no expert or professional. I'm just a guy with a voltmeter pretending he knows what to do with it. :) There are a ton of people on here that I am quite certain will know a whole lot more than I pretend to know.

I believe that the antenna power wire from your Kenwood is what is needed to power the amp power wire for your factory subwoofer. If you can use your factory radio, try to identify exactly which +12v wire goes to your Sub Amp. On your factory harness plug, more than likely, you will have the 8 front and rear speaker wires on one half of your factory harness, and power and ground on the other side. Your factory amp power wire will likely be on the side of the harness with the other power wires. The way you have it wired right now makes me suspicious that the amp wire you have from your Kenwood may not be +12v powered wire you are looking for.

The first step is to identify the factory amp power wire in the factory harness (you may have already done this). Next is to identify the +12v power wire on the Kenwood harness that only comes on when your Kenwood is turned on. Chances are, this will be that blue antenna wire from the Kenwood harness.

As far as the sound bar, I don't believe that my factory wiring on my 06LJ had the sound bar going through the amp. When my amp and sub were not working, I had sound from the dash and sound bar. The sound bar is definitely the "rear" speakers.

I sure hope this helps you. Post up if you get it working.
 

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Attach the back.

This is a guide to installing an aftermarket radio and 4 speakers for the TJ. Install was done on my 2003.
Thanks TheTJRod for the great write-up! Very helpful.

Does this "install" really merit a write-up. It's pretty easy.
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Hey guys, I bought a 99 TJ and I put in a new stereo today. The problem I'm having is that the bracket behind the stereo is not there....
Same issue here....

Did your new stereo not come w/a metal sleeve? ...
I did a quick search - wrangler forum: bracket missing for radio install
and found an older post on another forum that may help:

A few questions regarding after market radio installation... - JeepForum.com
The link only asks the question of what to do, didn't provide any answer that I saw.

For those of you who addressed the DIN sleeve, I did not think the sleeve did enough to keep the unit from moving in an up-down manner. Day-to-day driving maybe, but definitely not while off-roading. I found an old bracket laying around that would fit the bolt on the back on the unit. (Metal strap available at a hardware store would work better.) Used a 5 mm - 80 coarse thread nut to secure it and the grounding strap. Not pretty, but it works. I attached it to the defrost duct with a self tapping screw.

 

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how do you disconnect the radio connection in the back of your old unit? The one on the up right corner. I tried to pull it out directly but not successful.
 

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The nut...?

how do you disconnect the radio connection in the back of your old unit? The one on the up right corner. I tried to pull it out directly but not successful.
There is a 10mm nut holding the factory unit in place from the rear. Is that what you are asking about?
 

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Speakers for Upgraded Stereo in 2005 Wrangler

So I have been trolling through tons and tons of posts and it seems that many of you guys have upgraded your stereos and or speakers. I replaced my factory head unit two weeks ago and while it is a big time upgrade I also want to replace my factory speakers.

I do not have the subwoofer, and at this time not really looking to add one or any kind of amp. I added a Pioneer DEH-X8500BH which has the following wattage outputs.

RMS Power Output 14 watts
Peak Output 50 watts

The issue I am having is that some of the reviews from different places are just so random. Some praising the speakers some destroying them, but rarely can I even get a consensus and even more rarely do I see enough people that installed them into a Wrangler. I am not looking for overloaded bass but I don't want the distortion I get now when a song with some bass is playing.

What speakers have you folks used and or recommend? Right now I am looking at the Polk Audio db461 for the front dash. For the speaker pods I am torn between putting a standard type 2-way speaker and a component system. On the component system where do I put the crossover? I know I would have to cut holes if using the component version, and are the inline cross-overs any good?

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What speakers have you folks used and or recommend? Right now I am looking at the Polk Audio db461 for the front dash. For the speaker pods I am torn between putting a standard type 2-way speaker and a component system. On the component system where do I put the crossover? I know I would have to cut holes if using the component version, and are the inline cross-overs any good?
Thanks
I would suggest going with 5 1/4" speakers in the front with 6 1/2" overhead. My 4x6 speakers just can't compete at all with even 5 1/4" so the sound is real unbalanced and I feel I over drive the fronts when I fade the radio to the front.
Nalinmfgâ„¢ Jeep TJ LJ 4"x6" to 5 25" Speaker Adapters | eBay

I have a sub so I can't really comment on that portion of your question. You're doing the right thing looking at marine grade speakers, make sure to get a marine grade radio or cover plate too. I got caught in a downpour with the top off 10 miles away from home in stop and go traffic. Now my radio has a mind of it's own and when I press one button it activates every button but the one I want.

I have a metal security cover now that should protect my radio from most wet conditions.
https://www.quadratec.com/products/14026_231X_PG.htm
 

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I would suggest going with 5 1/4" speakers in the front with 6 1/2" overhead. My 4x6 speakers just can't compete at all with even 5 1/4" so the sound is real unbalanced and I feel I over drive the fronts when I fade the radio to the front.
Nalinmfg™ Jeep TJ LJ 4"x6" to 5 25" Speaker Adapters | eBay

I have a sub so I can't really comment on that portion of your question. You're doing the right thing looking at marine grade speakers, make sure to get a marine grade radio or cover plate too. I got caught in a downpour with the top off 10 miles away from home in stop and go traffic. Now my radio has a mind of it's own and when I press one button it activates every button but the one I want.

I have a metal security cover now that should protect my radio from most wet conditions.
Quadratec Exclusive 14026.2311 - Quadratec® iVault® for 97-06 Jeep® Wrangler TJ & 04-06 Wrangler Unlimited - Quadratec

Crutchfield doesn't even offer the 5.25 as an option, only 4" and 4 X 6 for the fronts. So I am going 5.25 in the front with those adapters. I am thinking of possibly going component in the front, and then just going 2 way with 6.5's in the pods. How much "trimming" am I looking at installing 6.5's in the pods rather than the 5.25's?
 

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Crutchfield doesn't even offer the 5.25 as an option, only 4" and 4 X 6 for the fronts. So I am going 5.25 in the front with those adapters. I am thinking of possibly going component in the front, and then just going 2 way with 6.5's in the pods. How much "trimming" am I looking at installing 6.5's in the pods rather than the 5.25's?
With most 6.25's you won't need to trim at all. You may however need to drill new mount holes and will need to use the grill covers that come with the speakers.
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f282/6-25-speakers-in-speaker-pod-241330.html

edit: Just saw you have a 2005, 6.25's are not as easy to fit in Wranglers with individual speaker pods. You may need to stick with 5.25
 

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With most 6.25's you won't need to trim at all. You may however need to drill new mount holes and will need to use the grill covers that come with the speakers.
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f282/6-25-speakers-in-speaker-pod-241330.html

edit: Just saw you have a 2005, 6.25's are not as easy to fit in Wranglers with individual speaker pods. You may need to stick with 5.25
I have 6.5's in my pods. Fit with no problem. Some will fit if you bend in the extra tabs sticking off the mounting bracket. Mine look factory for the most part. Pretty sure I drilled new holes? Did it over 2 years ago forget.
 

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I went with the Kicker 5.25's in the dash and the kicker 6.o's in the sound bar, great set up. The 6.0's fit great, no modifications needed, I used the stock speaker covers. Two years later it is all working great.
 

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Oustanding write-up! Did mine last month using this guide.

I just installed the Quadratec sub and I'm trying to figure out the correct settings so I don't blow it out.
 

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Just wanted to say thank you for writing up such thorough instructions with photos, just finished up and everything works and fits perfectly.

Mine was a matter of moving over a third party stereo from a 2000 Wrangler to replace the stock setup in my newer 03'. The biggest pain in the ass is the wiring, no doubt about it. But with a little research, some strippers and electrical tape, you'll be in business in no time.

Cheers!
 

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So I have been trolling through tons and tons of posts and it seems that many of you guys have upgraded your stereos and or speakers. I replaced my factory head unit two weeks ago and while it is a big time upgrade I also want to replace my factory speakers.

I do not have the subwoofer, and at this time not really looking to add one or any kind of amp. I added a Pioneer DEH-X8500BH which has the following wattage outputs.

RMS Power Output 14 watts
Peak Output 50 watts

The issue I am having is that some of the reviews from different places are just so random. Some praising the speakers some destroying them, but rarely can I even get a consensus and even more rarely do I see enough people that installed them into a Wrangler. I am not looking for overloaded bass but I don't want the distortion I get now when a song with some bass is playing.

What speakers have you folks used and or recommend? Right now I am looking at the Polk Audio db461 for the front dash. For the speaker pods I am torn between putting a standard type 2-way speaker and a component system. On the component system where do I put the crossover? I know I would have to cut holes if using the component version, and are the inline cross-overs any good?

Thanks
The problem with two way speakers, components or coaxial, is that the speakers are basically treble and midrange. They are not true bass speakers, so your bass will never be as good as a subwoofer. With a sub, you get true bass. Anyone who had a coaxial as a bass speaker and then added a subwoofer says that the bass is like night and day.

A 6.5 in the rear may help a little, but then it drowns out the front speaker, and throws off the balance. And, the bass in a 6.5 speaker is still basically a midrange speaker trying to play bass frequencies.
 

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Question is anyone can help. So, I have a pioneer DEH-X8600BH head unit. The manual doesn't give you a great breakdown of all the wires, only identifying the correct wires for power (yellow), ignition power (red) , ground (black), power antenna (the blue/white), and light switch terminal (orange and white). I'm guessing the speaker colors are pretty standard which is why they don't label them. Only a guess, wondering if anyone can confirm.

Here is my second question, the harness I got from crutch field has an orange cable marked illumination/dash and the orange/white marked dimmer. Which one should I connect the orange/white cable from the deck market light switch terminal?

Last question, this has a mic for handsfree.. TJ's are ****in noisy. Any suggestions on a good place to mount a mic?

Thanks in the advance for any help!
 

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Great write up! I am doing this right now, but have a question. I got my Sony stereo from Quadratec and it came with the "sleeve" already attached to the radio. I'm guessing for ease of shipping. To get the sleeve to set in the adapter, I'm thinking I need to remove the sleeve? That way I can get those metal tabs to bend down to grip the adapter. Does that make sense? if so, how do I remove the radio from the sleeve.
 

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