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I ordered some LED's to replace the bulbs in the Gauge Cluster. They will be here tomorrow, so I can do the mod this weekend. I see some of you have done this before. So my questions are as follows:

Has anyone changed out the lights behind the Climate Controls and Automatic Shifter Housing to LED's? If so, I'm wanting to know what part #'s of LED's worked for these locations. (i.e. #74 LED works for the Gauge Cluster)
(I have a 98 Sahara BTW)

If anyone has done this, could you also post some pics of it, so that I could see what it looks like ahead of time?
 

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I did the mod yesterday. As some of you have already seen, I had quite a few problems with blowing different fuses, and somehow my left turn signal light (the green arrow) won't work anymore. Today I found that my E-Brake Light won't come on either. Here's what happened:
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/need-help-now-please-25807.html

Otherwise, it was a cheap and easy mod and looks very nice. IMO, I don't think that the Blue LEDs are ANY brighter than your OEM bulbs, they may even be a tad dimmer. But they look alot better, and are easy on the eyes.

I found out that the HVAC bulb is a 194 and the Auto Trans Shifter bulb is a 658. Supposedly they are the same size, but the 194 is brighter. I ordered some blue LED 194's to replace them with. Someone on another forum stated that they didn't think the Green Filters on HVAC and Shifter wouldn't let the Blue light pass through. So I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Looks like I'll be the Ginnie Pig on this one, since no one has responded to this thread.:cool: It'll look nice if it actually does work though.

Any input on how to get the HVAC controls out would be appreciated. Other is welcome too, as always.:)














 

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is that a bit uneven or is it just me :p

Looks good though.

Its a bit dimmer since its blue. If you install white leds, you will be blinded lol
 

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wow thats awesome.. can you send me the link for where you got them and let me know if the ones for behind the trans shifter and climate controls comes out good...
 

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is that a bit uneven or is it just me :p

Looks good though.

Its a bit dimmer since its blue. If you install white leds, you will be blinded lol
Yeah Trip, I remember what you were saying before on my other thread.:flipoff:
.....Just Kid'n.:D

But no, actually all the light in mine is very uniform. I know the picture doesn't show that, so let me explain:

The only way I could get the correct color to come out in the picture was to put my camera on a long time exposure. If I let the camera use it's "auto mode", the color looked to be a light/bright, almost white-ish blue, that was completely inaccurate. Now, when you use a long time exposure, you know you're not holding the camera perfectly still...
That allows for those imperfections, and that's what you are seeing. It DOES NOT look like that to your eye, just in pictures.
(at least with my lights anyways)

So, all these pictures that people are posting are not as accurate as what you might think they are. But that's normal. I mean, how many times have you taken a picture and it doesn't quite look like what you are seeing. The human eye is a hell of alot more sophisticated than any camera lens that most people own.:)
 

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wow thats awesome.. can you send me the link for where you got them and let me know if the ones for behind the trans shifter and climate controls comes out good...
Here's the link. I bought the first one at the top. However, if you buy some of the ones with more LED's on them, your dash may light up brighter. I'm not sure. I'll post what I find with the other controls. It may be a while though. I'm gonna busy for the next couple weeks. Feel free to Leap-Frog ahead and show ME how to do it!:D

Autolumination Instrument Panel Light Bulbs & Lamps)
 

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Yeah Trip, I remember what you were saying before on my other thread.:flipoff:
.....Just Kid'n.:D
so its nice and even then? Good. If i have some extra money to spare, i'll do it.

On my bike i'm still going to use this first since i have 3 of them in my old computer. They are bright and beautiful.

 

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Cool blue

I love the effect the blue leds give the inst. panel. But I have a question-I had my panel out a few months ago because I wanted to tint the bright light indicator bulb-I'm short, its distractingly bright, don't ask. Anyway I couldn't figure out how to remove the bulb from the panel-or more accurately I was afraid to apply too much pressure-so I removed the lens and took a sharpie to the front of the display. Not pretty but at least I'm not blinded. So an tips for removing the bulbs?
 

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I love the effect the blue leds give the inst. panel. But I have a question-I had my panel out a few months ago because I wanted to tint the bright light indicator bulb-I'm short, its distractingly bright, don't ask. Anyway I couldn't figure out how to remove the bulb from the panel-or more accurately I was afraid to apply too much pressure-so I removed the lens and took a sharpie to the front of the display. Not pretty but at least I'm not blinded. So an tips for removing the bulbs?
Ahh-ha, the all mighty Sharpie Huh?:rofl:
Don't worry, that's how I fix the nicks in my black furniture, phones, toys....well everything really.:D

To remove the bulbs:
Just use some needle-nose pliers, unless you have really small figures.
Gently twist it to the left about 1/8 - 1/4 of a turn.

(The initial turn might take a tiny bit of force to unlock it, being that it has been sitting in that position for 7 years. Just be gentle)

Pull out, replace bulb. Put back in, gently twist to the right 1/8 - 1/4 of a turn until it stops.
(DON'T FORCE IT. ONCE IT STOPS, THATS GOOD ENOUGH:))

If you're referring to your High Beam indicator, it's the very top and center bulb in between your blinker bulbs.
(in a 98 anyways)(2002 may be a different location)

If you're going to replace with the LED's, use your stock bulb locks. The ones from autoillumination are JUNK and do not hold very well.

Good luck!:)
 

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so its nice and even then? Good. If i have some extra money to spare, i'll do it.
Yeah, the lights in mine are nice and even. There may be a bit of a color spike at the tips of the needles. There is also a little difference between the MPH and KM/H, but thats just because the KM/H are originally blue, while the MPH is originally white. See what mean?

It all depends on how long you STARE at it I guess.
Even if you stare at something beautiful long enough, you'll eventually find SOMETHING wrong with it!
But that's just me.:) lol.

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Yeah, I thought about glow gauges. But the whole set up is White durnig te day, and I dindn't like that at all. They look really good at night though.:)

Nice links Neil. They will definately answer some questions for others. I had already read them though. That HVAC is for 99+ models, I have a 98 slider. Since all the pics were removed from it, it being 99+, and he was talking about adding additional lights to the HVAC along with his original 3, it didn't really apply to what I needed. So I'm still looking.

But...if I don't find anything by the time I receive the 194's, I'll just crack it open and see what I find. It's always nice going in with a good idea though.:)
 

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Here's the scoop on the Green Filter Plastic that's inside your Auto Shifter Light and HVAC Light:

I received the 194 bulbs today from autoillumination. It plugged in fine to the existing connector. However, the diameter of the bulb was too big for the housing it has to fit into up in the PRND21 housing. The size I bought was 11mm DIA. Now you know to stay away from 11mm. And now I'm out $30 for those 2 bulbs.:mad:

If anyone wants them from something other than the PRND21 light, let me know. It's the Tower III with 25 LEDs on it. YEP, NICE AND BRIGHT!:D

The Good News:
I was right about how the color would turn out through the Green Filter though. Just as suspected, it's a Teal color. Blue+Green=Teal, common sense.
So if anyone was waiting to see if that Green Filter would let the BLUE through, yes it does, GO FOR IT! It just won't be that nice soothing deep blue of your gauge cluster. But the Teal looks better than that ugly a$$ green any day IMO.:)

Now, we just have to see what bulb is going to actually fit that housing.

Haven't got to the HVAC yet, but at least we know what color it will light up now.:D
 

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Yeah, I thought about glow gauges. But the whole set up is White durnig te day, and I dindn't like that at all. They look really good at night though.:)

.:)
TO tell you the thuth, one of the reasons I got it was to brighten up the interior a little. I have the black/dark slate interior and it was too much black for me. I also added a brushed overlay so I only the white gauge semi-circles show. I also needed the overlay to cut out portions of the overlay. I knew it when buying the gauge face from the pictures, dispie what the ebay ads say, the gauge faces are not for the 03+ dash. Some of the clear portions do not match the symbols on the 03+.
 

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Here's the scoop on the Green Filter Plastic that's inside your Auto Shifter Light and HVAC Light:

I received the 194 bulbs today from autoillumination. It plugged in fine to the existing connector. However, the diameter of the bulb was too big for the housing it has to fit into up in the PRND21 housing. The size I bought was 11mm DIA. Now you know to stay away from 11mm. And now I'm out $30 for those 2 bulbs.:mad:

If anyone wants them from something other than the PRND21 light, let me know. It's the Tower III with 25 LEDs on it. YEP, NICE AND BRIGHT!:D

The Good News:
I was right about how the color would turn out through the Green Filter though. Just as suspected, it's a Teal color. Blue+Green=Teal, common sense.
So if anyone was waiting to see if that Green Filter would let the BLUE through, yes it does, GO FOR IT! It just won't be that nice soothing deep blue of your gauge cluster. But the Teal looks better than that ugly a$$ green any day IMO.:)

Now, we just have to see what bulb is going to actually fit that housing.

Haven't got to the HVAC yet, but at least we know what color it will light up now.:D
Remove the face plate and on the back ,scrape off the green chit. It should look like its ironed on.


Heres a pic of the wide angle led's I installed in my wifes car. Used to be green



Even in the day they looked green, but now they are white

 

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Remove the face plate and on the back ,scrape off the green chit. It should look like its ironed on.
The PRND21 housing looks to all be one piece, without an entry point. I'm not sure about the HVAC yet.

I'm not sure I'd scrape it off though anyways. If I could remove it, to where I would be able to put it back on, then yes. But to just scrape it off, probably not. If I ever have to sell my TJ, the next owner might not like the blue. And if they didn't want to mess with LEDs, they'd be stuck with white light, and that might deter them from purchasing.

Good suggestion though.:)
I'm just not dead set on keeping this TJ for all eternity.:D

Heres a pic of the wide angle led's I installed in my wifes car. Used to be green
Looks good man.:)
I was telling Trip about how the camera pics up in-perfections in the uniformity of the light that are not there. Is this the case with yours as well, or is the light uneven like it appears in the photo?
 
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