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So, It's a snowy day and we need a new thread....


Through serendipity I now own both - 2005 LJ, 43k, 2008 FJ, 90k.


LJ is a sport, I bought from a buddy at 25k and have kept up, auto, soft top, winch, front and rear bumpers, 1/2 doors, full doors. Stock otherwise (expect OPDA fixed, Gas tank issue fixed, and I just replaced the RMS).

FJ, 2008, no bulge, 18: rims and big tires stock on this edition, rear locker, sensors, ac, outlets, grill guard, fog lights, curtain and other airbags - very safe vechicle.


So, Wife likes the FJ - she will drive it over any other vechicle. I like it well enough, but favor the LJ which I bough after I hit a deer in my last truck, so much so, I bought 1/2 doors, spare top, put on a winch etc.


I do not wheel (old and feeble), but love dirt roads and unexplored paths, and open tops. I live in a hail area.


Both trucks are in fantastic condition, FJ is worth more per KBB.


Need to sell one, can't have 2.



I'd love to hear your input on this 1st world issue.
 

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Straight six is a better longer lasting engine

Only the high end marks still make a straight six engine


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Straight six is a better longer lasting engine

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And I am very comfortable working on it. Have not had to get into the FJ other than fluid maintenance.


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Sooooo if I were to loosely paraphrase you....
neo-fight said:
I have two... one I love and one I don't... should I keep the one I love or the other one?
OR...

neo-fight said:
.... One I love and one the wife loves...
Who's gonna be driving it? You or the wife?

If it's gonna be your vehicle, then this seems like a silly question....
If it's gonna be your wife's.... yep, still silly LOL

If you're sharing it.... that kinda makes it hers right?

Just remember happy wife happy life... sometimes...
 

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I once saw an FJ with stickers by the tow hooks that said, "Jeep Tow Point." Blasphemy!!! After seeing that, I will always be biased against them!

On a more serious note, the open top capability of the LJ would be the decision maker for me. But man, this is certainly a subjective decision.
 

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If it was for me, I'd keep the LJ but for the wife I'd go reliability which is hands down the Toyota.
 

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If the wife wants the FJ then that's the end of the conversation. :) I own a '04 LJ with some nice upgrades, hard top, but mostly used as a commuter and 2x month fire road transit to play with spoons in the hills. I have not owned a FJ, but have driven a few, and I really like them for what they are. Compared to Wrangler they are very claustrophobic but IMO equal capability off road with similar upgrades. Also have to consider Toyota reliability is demonstrated as far better than Jeep. If I totaled my LJ tomorrow I would look to LJ or FJ for replacement. Or a Porsche 996...I am an equal opportunity person :)
 

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Straight six is a better longer lasting engine

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Not sure what the FJ has, but if its the 4.7 V8 they are indestructible. My bud has 435,000 on his all original best to death Tundra. If its the 4.0 V6 their just as durable. Frankly after owning 3 FJ40ies I hated the FJ cruisers when the came out. Still never would own one as the visibility looks terrible. Im told their built on a 4runner chassis and our 04 has been nothing but bulletproof and killer in the snow. Bad is mods are very pricey. Resale I see the toyota holding out real well, but the LJ even more so as its the last of the real traditional jeeps for much of the jeep crowd. Id say the LJ rubicon is pretty much the Holy grail of Jeepism ya know.
 

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Not sure what the FJ has, but if its the 4.7 V8 they are indestructible. My bud has 435,000 on his all original best to death Tundra. If its the 3.4 V6 their just as durable. Frankly after owning 3 FJ40ies I hated the FJ cruisers when the came out. Still never would own one as the visibility looks terrible. Im told their built on a 4runner chassis and our 04 has been nothing but bulletproof and killer in the snow. Bad is mods are very pricey. Resale I see the toyota holding out real well, but the LJ even more so as its the last of the real traditional jeeps for much of the jeep crowd. Id say the LJ rubicon is pretty much the Holy grail of Jeepism ya know.
It was only available with the 4.0 V6, would’ve been cool if they dropped in the 4.7 V8 like they did with 4Runner
 

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Straight six is a better longer lasting engine

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That's not necessarily true. Look into how reliable the Toyota 4.0's are.




To the OP. I drive a Tacoma with a 4.0. I like the FJ's but would rather have the LJ to be honest.


I say pick whichever one your wife likes more :rofl:
 

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Yes it is true as the straight six is inherently balanced in primary and secondary both shaking for e and rocking couple

Was true and in text books when my did got his ME degree in 1940s still true when I got mine in 1970s and still true today
Pick up any machine dynamics textbook

Longest Iasting ford engine 300 aka 4.9 straight six

Longest lasting oil burner pickup engine dodge straight six

But today Jeep and GM and Toyota and Ford all too cheap to make a straight six as the high end Germans are going back to it

Bean counters hate it as too long to fit crossways one front wheel drive

Economy green socialists hate it as used more metal/weight and lasts too long

But for a long term vehicle it is the best

Don’t believe the hype and advertising look to the physics



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I had the FJ, TJ and LJ for several years. I sold the FJ and kept the TJ and then bought an LJ for the extra space.

For me it came down to comfort vs. capability. The FJ was a more universal vehicle, more comfortable for roadtrips, commuting, towing, space, speed. The AWD was ideal for snowy conditions. The LJ was far superior offroading. I ran the same intermediate trails in both and the LJ simply walked over the obstacles that the FJ was struggling with.

I'd keep the FJ if it was my only vehicle and daily driver and the LJ if it was a 2nd vehicle for offroad trips.

 
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