Spy shots have shown a manual transmission, though a different transmission than the current JK. One can safely assume that at least the 3.6l will be available with the manual transmission.I'm assuming this won't work with a manual? Of course I am assuming there will be a manual
Engine wear is at cold startup when oil has drained back into the pan. Also there are certain variables where start/stop follows such as engine temp, O2 temp, HVAC, battery voltage, vehicle speed since last auto stop, ect. The car does not turn off 100% of the time, and most people who have this feature have no idea how it works, are too lazy to learn about it, so they hate it.My Neighbor just purchased a new BMW SUV. His has this feature and he does not like it.
Your Battery must be of a high quality, probably expensive to replace. What about the wear and tear on the starter. It's a proven factor that most engine wear takes place at time of start up. Every time that you turn off your engine, cooling system temperatures rise. If you are stuck in traffic mid-Summer, what about your A/C not running.
I really question all of this..we shall see..
I think the other forum confirmed it can be turned off with a button but agreed it sucks it will reset to ON every time you start it. I'm good as long as it can be default OFF until I want it but will need to plug in OBD device for that. I don't want to PERMANENTLY disable it. It might be good in a pinch to eek out a few extra miles if I'm almost empty while in traffic.It wouldn't be so bad except for this statement:
"We've learned that while the ESS feature can be turned off it will default to 'on' with each ignition cycle, similar to the way it operates on other FCA vehicles that offer the feature."
Without a permanent disable, this is just going to be an annoyance. Now there is definitely no way I am buying a JL, unless they have a Hemi of course. Even then, I would have to hope that it would not have ESS or there would be some workaround. FCA talks about making the Wrangler lighter, but then they talk about something stupid like this that adds more weight to the vehicle (article mentions the need for a larger battery and more robust starter).
I have heard that in other vehicles, you can take the vehicle to the dealership to have ESS permanently disabled. It would be nice to be able to disable it with a tuner of some kind.
The ESS might only be for the Pentastar though. With turbos on the diesel and 4 banger, it would not be a good idea to have ESS.
Yea I actually meant I wish it would default to "off." However, if this is not an option, I would resort to a true permanent disable (as in can't be turned on at all).I think the other forum confirmed it can be turned off with a button but agreed it sucks it will reset to ON every time you start it. I'm good as long as it can be default OFF until I want it but will need to plug in OBD device for that. I don't want to PERMANENTLY disable it. It might be good in a pinch to eek out a few extra miles if I'm almost empty while in traffic.
If they don't use the starter motor, then how do they start the engine?The starter motor is not used with this technology to restart the vehicle - a more robust starter is not needed, nor was there any mention of that in the link above.
Mazada's I-Stop uses direct injection to start the engine, so there are other ways to turn over an engine without using a starter. Also I do not believe it takes as much energy to start an engine from auto stop vs the initial start as the computer and sensors have been continuously running and can quickly fire up the engine. So a larger battery and starter might not be required.If they don't use the starter motor, then how do they start the engine?
A more robust starter IS needed because starters are not meant to be used this often, and yes, it is mentioned in the article:
"Enhanced high-speed/high-durability starter"