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I did a search and didn't find anything about the stage 3. My understanding is that it is a Teraflex lift, but includes non-adjustable track bars and Fox shocks. Is that correct?

Are there any advantages to the mopar vs the Teraflex?
 

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Any particular reason you're looking at the MOPAR kit?

In my opinion, you can get MUCH better lifts for the money...
 

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IMO I love mine. (The TF guy i talked to bought the Mopar kit.)The non adjustable control arms (not track bar) are extended and the kit also comes with preset cam bolts. Didnt need alignment or adjustment. Ironic that the non-adjustables are so maligned...for NOT needing adjustment??...Granted if you want to go bigger later you can't- but I Have no plans for 37s. Also came with speed stops/hydraulic bump stops, rear brake line re-lo, exhaust spacer & limit straps etc. Adders on most other lift kits.
Fox shocks may be overkill depending on what you plan to do with it. I like rock crawling AND speed so they're great for me. I've been extremely happy with performance of this kit from day one- on road and off. Everyone's needs differ.
Also see the LIFT review thread....many other lifts there to look at.
 

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Deal-breakers for me...
-- non-adjustable arms
-- cam bolts
-- can't go up to 37's if you ever want to

...ESPECIALLY for that much money! No way.

Check out the Rock Krawler and Metalcloak kits if you're really trying to spend that kind of money on a complete kit...
 

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paleh0rse said:
Deal-breakers for me...
-- non-adjustable arms
-- cam bolts
-- can't go up to 37's if you ever want to

...ESPECIALLY for that much money! No way.

Check out the Rock Krawler and Metalcloak kits if you're really trying to spend that kind of money on a complete kit...
I just ordered the 3.5 game changer... Anxious to get it on and update u all how it is along with some pics
 

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I just ordered the 3.5 game changer... Anxious to get it on and update u all how it is along with some pics
Awesome kit, man! Please write that one up. I had a really hard time deciding between RK and MC, but eventually chose RK (primarily based on cost). I'm very interested in hearing how you like their kit -- especially the feel of their unique dual-rate springs.
 

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Any particular reason you're looking at the MOPAR kit?

In my opinion, you can get MUCH better lifts for the money...
Frankly the only reason is because I've found a dealer that has a '13 with the full package already installed, with the right rims and tires.

I'll do some crawling, but I get bored very quick. Too much sitting around and waiting. I'd much prefer to blast across desert sections, dirt roads, baja style...to me that's a good time. I've talked to TF about the best way to build a Prerunner, but to do it right, it's out of my price range. The Mopar Stage 3 is basically the same package as I'd want if going directly through TF, and I believe it'll work well for what I want to do. So the difference between TF and Mopar is sixes to me.
 

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Agreed

... How much four wheelin are u going to be doing?
My jeep will be used pretty much as a daily driver, but I go offroad regularly. I don't do much crawling, but I do some. Just prefer to run across the desert roads at speed. But most of my time offroad is really just getting me from point a to point be to do something beside offroad. And I really enjoy going from A to B as quickly as possilbe. And yes, a Hemi would help emensly, but not in the cards...:)
 

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Frankly the only reason is because I've found a dealer that has a '13 with the full package already installed, with the right rims and tires.

I'll do some crawling, but I get bored very quick. Too much sitting around and waiting. I'd much prefer to blast across desert sections, dirt roads, baja style...to me that's a good time. I've talked to TF about the best way to build a Prerunner, but to do it right, it's out of my price range. The Mopar Stage 3 is basically the same package as I'd want if going directly through TF, and I believe it'll work well for what I want to do. So the difference between TF and Mopar is sixes to me.
TF will review both kits in detail with you if ask. Lke I said, one of the TF guys bought the Mopar kit for his Jeep. We were surpised at how helpful they were- but of course TF makes money either way. A good call also might be to Poly Performance. They're big Jeep desert runner guys- they gave us some good info. and legit advice on potential kits. Desert running is kinda like chrome on this forum.
Poly Performance JEEP/TRUCK & BUGGY :: News - 4X4 Off-Road Parts, JK Synergy Suspension Systems, Fox Racing Shox, Beard, CNC Brakes, Johnny Joints®, Currie Enterprises, Edelbrock, Pit Bull Tires, Ramsey Winch, ARB, Walker Evans, Wilwood, Mastercraft,
Driving at 25-30 MPH on a trail with the Fox is amazing- the shocks really absorb the bumps. I've driven behind my husband in our Ranger w/Ranchos & lift on the same trail at the same speed. (Different vehicles; I know). He has to hang on for dear life. I can text and drink coffee at the same time. I kid- but you get the idea. People have said that Fox is rough on the road- but if you've driven your potential vehicle you know what you're getting into.
One thing to consider- you didn't list your model but the Rubi discos will re-connect over 20 mph. We added them to our Sport-thankfully cheaply- and neglected to consider this. So either upgrade the disco's or just go mechanical for desert running.
Good luck! Either way I hope you find the Jeep you want and welcome!
 

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It took going to a Meet and Greet here in Tucson where another forum goer who had the same lift attended, for me to realize exactly what it was that I didn't like about my 4" mopar lift. And it turns out it's a really simple cheap fix, that I have obviously been too lazy to bother with lately. (Other things have taken priority over the Jeeps unfortunately of late.)

You can see in this photo how tall the stupid bump stops are. It makes for some annoyances on the trail if you're putting some flex to it.



This can easily be rectified by swapping out the bump stops, and I'm sure I'll get around to it eventually. There are quite a few pre-lifted JK's going for some pretty good deals this past year. I've seen people on here paying more for a stock one than I did for my lifted one. So it all comes down to how hard you wanna play with it I suppose. Hard core rock crawling just ain't for me. So aside from this bump stop thing, my mopar lift which is essentially the same as his Teraflex lift are pretty much on par with one another.
 

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Oh, and if you do get a pre-lifted one, don't forget to grab a set of sway bar disconnects. I haven't seen any one the dealer lots where they thought about that.

We installed a Teraflex ourselves into his 2011. I bought my 2012 pre-lifted. I've regretted neither, and I have an absolute blast in both. I really need to get off my lazy butt and swap out my bump stops, but tbh, it's really only a minor annoyance. I generally try to avoid the trails that involve a lot of rock crawling b/c I honestly hate it. Too freaking slow, boring, and while I've got no issues covering my Jeep in sand and mud, smashing it on boulders doesn't really appeal to me.

Just make sure you're getting a good deal. There seems to be a pretty big disparity between dealers on what they charge for one after it's lifted.

PS: Sorry for any typos, I will admit that I started making mudslides a bit ago and they have tasted too good this evening...
 

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I chose the Mopar 3" stage 3 because it came without adjustable control arms. You are correct that the track bars use relocation brackets instead of adjustable joints. I live on a gravel road and also wanted the Fox shocks. My previous experience is the '97 TJ I built with those great "flexy" joints from RE, JKS, Currie, and TF.

Now I admit the flexy joints are great for the rocks, and my TJ would ramp nearly 1100 so those flexy joints do work very well. The problem with most of them for my current wheelin'/driving style is they don't have rubber bushings to absorb shock like stock control arms. The result was constant joint repair or replacement, as well as contributing to control arm mount failures on the upper control arms.

I believe you can get more flexible off road performing lifts for less from other manufacturers, but if you are looking for a dependable daily driver that can still do most of the tougher trails out there, you now know why I chose the Mopar.
 

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It took going to a Meet and Greet here in Tucson where another forum goer who had the same lift attended, for me to realize exactly what it was that I didn't like about my 4" mopar lift. And it turns out it's a really simple cheap fix, that I have obviously been too lazy to bother with lately. (Other things have taken priority over the Jeeps unfortunately of late.)

You can see in this photo how tall the stupid bump stops are. It makes for some annoyances on the trail if you're putting some flex to it.



This can easily be rectified by swapping out the bump stops, and I'm sure I'll get around to it eventually. There are quite a few pre-lifted JK's going for some pretty good deals this past year. I've seen people on here paying more for a stock one than I did for my lifted one. So it all comes down to how hard you wanna play with it I suppose. Hard core rock crawling just ain't for me. So aside from this bump stop thing, my mopar lift which is essentially the same as his Teraflex lift are pretty much on par with one another.
Hey Snochick! How far is Tuscon from Phoenix? We go there every year- you and I should run together. Same crazy Jeep style. :D
I remember you posting originally that you didn't like this kit- and now I get it like you said. You must be hitting those bump stops constantly- I think those are from the 4" standard lift kit?... I pulled the TeraFlex site and they have shorter bump stop bases cheap- might be an easy fix if you haven't found something already.
Wrangler JK Unlimited 07+ | Wrangler Jeep Suspensions Axles and Components | TeraFlex Suspensions. I think Poly Performance also sells a shorter foam piece for the top section.
I have the TF hydraulic bump stops (come with Stage 3)- pricey but I like 'em. Is That what your husband has? Here is a pic for the OP to see. At first glance it doesn't look like that much more room/space. But if you look closely you'll see where th black part is still clean- I have plenty of room/flex. Obviously I need to wheel harder.
 

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Thanks, no he's got the standard kit. That does look like an interesting choice though. I'll have to think on it. You're right I do hit mine a lot and for some stupid reason it didn't occur to me for a long time what it was that was irritating me about my kit. It's an easy enough fix though. I'll probably get the shorter bump stops. That speed bump kit looks nice, but it's going to be out of my budget due to a few higher priority items on the Jeeps. Maybe later down the road.

Tucson and Phoenix isn't too far. Maybe 2 hours depending on where in Phoenix. We don't head that way too often.
 
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