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Hi everybody - I'm a fresh YJ owner, I've been avidly consuming this forum posts, and this is my first post.

I have a dilemma. Despite its 124k miles, my YJ is immaculate. Everything is original, and everything works. But...I have two small kids, and want to make sure they can safely ride with me. I'm currently thinking of swapping the original back bench for one with headrest (Bestop Trailmax II Fold-and-Tumble), changing all seatbelts with new ones from Seatbeltsplus, changing front seats to go with the rear bench (Bestop Trailmax II Sport), and swapping headlights and taillights with LED ones (compared to modern cars lights, the YJ sort of disappears in the night, and I can't see much).

So the dilemma: would you YJ gurus think these are upgrades, or am I making a huge mistake and instead should try and keep my YJ as original as I can?

Thanks in advance!

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Welcome Aboard! Those seats look flawless. I always love seeing stock vehicles that are older and lean towards keeping them as stock as possible but when it comes to safety and your kids I don't think anyone can tell you that what you did was wrong.
 

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Hi everybody - I'm a fresh YJ owner, I've been avidly consuming this forum posts, and this is my first post.

I have a dilemma. Despite its 124k miles, my YJ is immaculate. Everything is original, and everything works. But...I have two small kids, and want to make sure they can safely ride with me. I'm currently thinking of swapping the original back bench for one with headrest (Bestop Trailmax II Fold-and-Tumble), changing all seatbelts with new ones from Seatbeltsplus, changing front seats to go with the rear bench (Bestop Trailmax II Sport), and swapping headlights and taillights with LED ones (compared to modern cars lights, the YJ sort of disappears in the night, and I can't see much).

So the dilemma: would you YJ gurus think these are upgrades, or am I making a huge mistake and instead should try and keep my YJ as original as I can?

Thanks in advance!

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Wow, that is super clean! Good score on this YJ!

To see this brings me back to all the times I sat in the rear on a bench like that. Back in the day I never worried about it and thoroughly enjoyed the seat. After being re-ended by a serious jerk in 2012 while driving our TJ at a very slow speed and experiencing the amount of G force that slow accident applied I’d personally opt for the aftermarket head rest rear seat. My wife still has neck problems as she was turning her neck at the time of the accident. Hate to have the kiddos to go through the same if you ever got rear ended.
 

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If you want a 100% all stock original Jeep, keep the seats.
If you wanna customized Jeep, swap them out, but I'd go with some really nice seats though. (save seats)
Check out PRP's, they have front and back seats that you can design the fabric and color pattern to match what your Jeep. They're not cheap, but they are top tier seats.
That's what I did in my all stock TJ, I plan on adding the bench back seat with headrest next summer.
LED's are the only way to go too.
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Personally, I dislike the look of LEDS on classic cars, Jeeps and motorcycles, but that is a style preference.

If you do this, keep the old parts. The Jeep will be worth more with the original parts.
 

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Personally, I dislike the look of LEDS on classic cars, Jeeps and motorcycles, but that is a style preference.

If you do this, keep the old parts. The Jeep will be worth more with the original parts.
This guy will sell you better halogens than you have. Probably not as bright as LEDs, but likely cheaper than a DOT legal set of LEDs, and more in keeping with the original style.

 

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I agree with much of the above advice.
I commend you for wanting your family to be safe. If you're comfortable with the cost of new seats and seatbelts, go for it. SAVE THE OLD SEATS! Store them in the attic or somewhere else out of the weather and where mice won't get to them. When it comes time to sell the Jeep, put the old seats back in and sell the Bestop seats. The YJ will be worth more with the original seats.

As far as the headlights, Hella or Cibie make H4 conversions that are a dramatic improvement and keep the old school look of the original headlights.
There are two versions of the H4 headlights (DOT and E-code). The DOT lights are approved by the Department of Transportation for use in the US and the E-code lights are foe European countries. A subset of the E-code lights are for countries that drive on the left side of the road (England, Japan, Australia and others). The left hand drive E-code lights will shine the wrong way for right hand drivers and the glare will affect oncoming drivers.
Some posters might state that the E-code lights aren't legal in the US. What they mean is that the E-code lights aren't approved by the US DOT. I've never heard of anyone getting a ticket for running E-code lights. They are supposed to have a better light distribution pattern. If you go with the H4 lights, you'll need a headlight adapter harness to redirect the headlight power through a relay, rather than through the failure prone stock headlight switch.

If you go with LED headlights, do a lot of research. Some are junk and have a terrible light distribution pattern. Check the reviews of folks that have used them for a while. Also if you live where it snows, you'll want heated LED lights to prevent ice buildup on the lenses. The H4s generate enough heat to keep them from freezing up.

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Sharp YJ.

My toddler rides in the back in his car seat. When he gets big enough for a booster, I'll probably move him upfront. He is already out of leg room and I can't hear anything he says.

I am also looking at fresh belts all the way around, they are getting to be pretty agressive on locking up and not releasing.

I have hella e- codes in my YJ, hella dot in my MJ and in my jk I swapped hella e- code for some led headlights from NAPA (NAPA NightVision https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/LMPH4651NVLEDN ) the LED makes good light and doesn't look like a spaceship from Florida, but probably not as good as hella e-code + performance bulbs + headlamp relay harness.

For taillamps I have Sylvania zevo 1157 red in the stock housing. I painted the inside of the housing with chrome paint. they are very visible and good contrast between brake and running lights. Also swapped the turn flasher for a heavy duty.
 

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Yes, but you could also say the same thing if he asked if he should sell his Jeep and buy a Corolla. The question is how much bubble wrap is necessary, and how much is overkill. Which isn't really a no brainer IMO.
But it is statistically true that EVERYONE who actually rode in the back of a YJ between 1987-1995 literally died in that Jeep, I read that on the internet.
 

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Whose kids are riding in the Jeep? That should answer your questions. If you had to ask, then you feel it has merit. Any other choice now will leave you second guessing anything in the future.
But I do agree, keep the seats, if only to sell them in the near future to recoup some upgrade costs.

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Personally, on a matter of safety, I would get seats with headrests for the back of that Jeep, even a low speed impact with bench seats can give whiplash or worse...I know its "classic" but does classic really matter with a snapped neck?

That being said, I say, rip em out but keep the old seats! or sell them to someone trying to restore a YJ
 

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Hi everybody - I'm a fresh YJ owner, I've been avidly consuming this forum posts, and this is my first post.

I have a dilemma. Despite its 124k miles, my YJ is immaculate. Everything is original, and everything works. But...I have two small kids, and want to make sure they can safely ride with me. I'm currently thinking of swapping the original back bench for one with headrest (Bestop Trailmax II Fold-and-Tumble), changing all seatbelts with new ones from Seatbeltsplus, changing front seats to go with the rear bench (Bestop Trailmax II Sport), and swapping headlights and taillights with LED ones (compared to modern cars lights, the YJ sort of disappears in the night, and I can't see much).

So the dilemma: would you YJ gurus think these are upgrades, or am I making a huge mistake and instead should try and keep my YJ as original as I can?

Thanks in advance!

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