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Trying to figure out if the 430 N allows you to put a mirco sd card or down load maps into the radio. It would be awesome to load the land status via a chip or download for hunting in Montana. Does anyone know if you can do this?
 

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I had a 430N and now have the newer 730N and I use the Nav extensively. Other than updates, music and photos I have never seen any feature like that. These units are quite simple by today's standards but they are very functional. They don't offer many customization features.

You can download the users manual at the Uconnect site.
 

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I have had both as well for gps I prefer the 430 the gps seems better. The 730 was good but the nav directions were goofy at times.
 

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Different animal.....Google maps require you to be online or have cell service. 430 and 730 run off of DVD.

DVD has decent trail maps that are verified. Google does not verify trail maps/service roads.
 

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IIRC the 430N will only let you load waypoints. You can upgrade the maps, but not add the kind you are describing - just the factory style updates. To do what you want, you might be better off with a fit-for-purpose GPS. I was looking to load some terrain maps and the best I found was some iPhone/iPad apps. You can also get the GPS-X app for your phone and pre-load an area so it will work without a signal. There are other apps that function like that too.
 

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Thanks for the comments. I have several GPS units that are Garmin. The 430N looks very similar to a Nuvi. I tried to call the place today that makes the land status chips/downloads and didn't get a human. I am going to try again tomorrow.
 

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I have 430N in my 2014 JKU and after my first oil change at Jeep service my Navi 'Can't unlock maps'- exact message from the screen. Only 8000 miles, went to trip to Florida and back (from Connecticut), had no problems with Navi until oil change. Mechanics deny messing with Navi or electronics at oil change appt, they can't fix the problem neither. they called Chrysler/Jeep factory specialist and were told the whole unit needs to be replaced. I'm wondering if anybody heard about the same or similar problem before or I'm the first one to have it. If anybody knows how to unlock maps, please let me know, cause I'm not really looking forward to replace my Radio/Navi unit and possibly loose all of my data on Hard drive. And for those who are choosing now between 430N and 730N would be worth to know what problems they can expect from 430N .
 

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"I have 430N in my 2014 JKU and after my first oil change at Jeep service my Navi 'Can't unlock maps'- exact message from the screen. Only 8000 miles, went to trip to Florida and back (from Connecticut), had no problems with Navi until oil change. Mechanics deny messing with Navi or electronics at oil change appt, they can't fix the problem neither. they called Chrysler/Jeep factory specialist and were told the whole unit needs to be replaced."

I have that problem, also! Worked perfectly on a 2000 mile trip. Had the first oil change, now the same message. Cannot add destinations because "detail maps not found". I called connect support and they do not have clue, act like they have never heard of such a thing. Maybe the reset on the oil change did something? That is the only possible interaction with the electronics.
 

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Custom poi's

I have had both 730N and 430N. I have loaded around two dozen trails and almost 550 waypoints into my 430N.

DWpoiTrail_KG6SLC.jpg

Each trail shows up as it's own trail. In this screenshot the trail is Drinkwater. The DW01, DW02 etc. are waypoints along the Drinkwater trail...
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and I can even put speed zones as well as comments. Speed zones show up on the NAV screen as grey/white if within speed alert range and red/white if above speed alert range. There is also a chime when entering a speed zone.

CustomPOIwCommentsKG6SLC.jpg

If there is interest I can post how to do this as a "sticky"

KG6SLC aka Eugene
 

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Great idea...please show us how to do this..
 

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I have had both 730N and 430N. I have loaded around two dozen trails and almost 550 waypoints into my 430N. DWpoiTrail_KG6SLC.jpg Each trail shows up as it's own trail. In this screenshot the trail is Drinkwater. The DW01, DW02 etc. are waypoints along the Drinkwater trail... DW01poiKG6SLC.jpg and I can even put speed zones as well as comments. Speed zones show up on the NAV screen as grey/white if within speed alert range and red/white if above speed alert range. There is also a chime when entering a speed zone. CustomPOIwCommentsKG6SLC.jpg If there is interest I can post how to do this as a "sticky" KG6SLC aka Eugene
Will this work with the 730 as well?
 

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430N & 730N waypoints

I'm not sure there is enough interest out there to justify doing a "sticky" or not. Note that adding custom waypoints will only work on the 430N.

I liked the 730N that was in my 2011 Sport KJU but there is no way to upload waypoints to it so I specifically ordered the 430N in my 2013 10A Rubicon. In the 730N, you can save individual breadcrumb trails (up to a dozen if I remember correctly). The 430 will do a breadcrumb trail (of sorts). Trail marking is either always on or always off and they cannot be saved.

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Hey Guys, nice talk. So I am looking at getting an 08 jk. and was wondering can I install the 430N or 730N into that year? Do they all have the same harnass and hookups?

Seems people like the 430N better. If I just use it for basic maps and music, which one do you guys prefer? Or Does the 430N do it all around better? Thanks!

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Navigation units

The 730N is considered by Jeep to be their "premier" system......and they make you pay for it. The 730N will do things like split screen and also has a single screen that gives you a map, elevation, and coordinates on the same page. You can also save (I believe up to a dozen) and name breadcrumb trails. The 730N comes with Uconnect and Bluetooth integrated. I purchased a 2011 Sport with a lowly 130 radio. I swapped it out for a 730N and it was plug and play for me. I didn't even have to get the dealer to enable anything. I LOVED how the 730N would control my Ipod (with the Ipod cable). The USB connector on the front of the radio can also be used for things other than loading pictures and music to the hard drive.

The 430N is considered by many to be the better navigation system for off road. While it will not enable saving a breadcrumb trail, it can be either turned on or off. It will not do split screens and the lat/lon elevation is not available on the same screen as the map. The USB port on the front of the radio is for uploading pictures and music only. You can't even control your Ipod using this port. However, there is a second port in the center console that can be used to control your Ipod. The 430N does NOT include bluetooth or Uconnect integrated within the radio but must be added separately if you do not already have these functions and are considering upgrading to a 430N. Where the 430N really shines, in my opinion, is the ability to upload custom Points Of Interest. You can define the trail you want to take, load it to a USB stick, then upload those trails and waypoints using the USB port on the front of the radio.

Photos of screens of some of my trails are in a previous post.

I have also loaded Topo on a laptop and mounted it in my JKU and I like it!...It's a little like watching w i d e s c r e e n navigation. However, it is somewhat cumbersome for the person sitting in the passenger seat (aka wife) so I mostly use the 430N.

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Thanks for the response! Sounds like I might like the 730, since I dont need an extensive trail listing. I would mainly want it for music, maps and being on the phone. Can you install either of these in any of the JK's? Or do early jk's have different setups?
 
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