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I’ve been looking at new JLs (had a ‘14 JK) and the local dealer has three new 2018 JLs on the lot. A little curious why they haven’t sold so far!
Any thoughts....yes or no....on buying a two year old new JL?

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I just bought a brand-NEW 2018 JLU Sahara myself.

I was about to buy a USED one without Selec-Trac for $1,500 less. Backed out of the deal, found this one priced at 22% off MSRP and pulled the trigger.

It is a well-equipped model; has most of what I wanted (i.e., V6, auto, Selec-Trac, LSD, Cold Weather Group, Trailer Tow Group, Safety Group, Navigation & Alpine Sound, proximity door locks, body-color hardtop); the only things that I’m missing are leather seats and LED group.

It has the original 3-Year bumper to bumper warranty, the free 1-Year XM and 5-Year Travel Link subscriptions, and the 2-year free services. The dealer even threw in a Lifetime Powertrain Warranty for free.

I’m still trying to get used to the numb steering. But every JL I test drove, no matter what year or trim, has some symptom of it. I’m hoping I can “fix” it with a fair amount of mods.

I picked it up on Friday night and drove it 1,000 miles back home. I’m really happy with it.

I’d say go for it!

PS - If you want the V6, they are becoming increasingly difficult to find!

 

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It depends on the price, Im sure dealer will do something about it.
As for technical aspect probably it needs to be serviced already.
 

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Tires may be flat spotted but that's no big deal. They probably over ordered to get a bonus and just had a bunch. New is new.
For me it helps because I rack so many miles in a given year.
 

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The dealer close to us has several leftover 2018 JLs but no 2020s yet, while another dealer about 20 miles away has a large selection of 2020s. We test drove one of the 2018s the other day. I am wondering what changes were made during those two years, keeping in mind that a 2018 is considered a 2-yr old vehicle as soon as it has been driven off the lot.

My wife is still thinking about getting one next spring, probably ordering it exactly the way she wants from the factory. Sales guy says it takes up to 8 weeks, so he said to plan accordingly. We're hoping the Bikini Pearl color is still around then. She has always talked about getting another Sahara, although when we were browsing the lot yesterday she asked me what's the deal with the Rubicon trim. :eek:
 

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I bought my Indian Scout in 2017 brand new, and it was a 2015 model. Long story short it got buried in the shop, and forgotten about. I ended up basically stealing the thing, so I would definitely not be shy about recommending going after a 2+ year old model on the lot if you can get a killer discount.

That being said; one thing I'd caution is to make sure they go over all of it. It turned out one of the seals in the V-Twin had gone bad, and there was an air bubble in the coolant system. Luckily no damage was done, but it did make for an awful few hours waiting on a tow (from the shop, who also brought me a floor model as a loaner) in rush hour Atlanta traffic.
 

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I am wondering what changes were made during those two years, keeping in mind that a 2018 is considered a 2-yr old vehicle as soon as it has been driven off the lot.
Mostly just the typical color change and special trim packages. A few redesigned/updated parts on 2019-20 to address steering concerns, but some owners are still not pleased so it didn’t make a big difference.

The major change comes with reshuffled engine options for 2020.

2.0 is now the base engine with automatic, and it drops eTorque.
3.6 is now the premium engine option (with automatic)
3.0 diesel now available

Sahara is now the only model that comes with eTorque, and it’s on both the 2.0 and 3.6
 

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Chances are any real fixes to the steering will come with the mid-cycle redesign, which for Wrangler comes every five years —i.e., with the 2023 JL model year. Along with updates to the interior, to the electronics, and new wheel designs.

PS - there should be a Sahara 80th Anniversary Edition out by this time next year!
 

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The dealer close to use has several leftover 2018 JLs but no 2020s yet, while another dealer about 20 miles away has a large selection of 2020s. We test drove one of the 2018s the other day. I am wondering what changes were made during those two years, keeping in mind that a 2018 is considered a 2-yr old vehicle as soon as it has been driven off the lot.

My wife is still thinking about getting one next spring, probably ordering it exactly the way she wants from the factory. Sales guy says it takes up to 8 weeks, so he said to plan accordingly. We're hoping the Bikini Pearl color is still around then. She has always talked about getting another Sahara, although when we were browsing the lot yesterday she asked me what's the deal with the Rubicon trim. :eek:
Has she looked at MOAB? It is essentially a well-equipped Sahara with standard V6, 8-speed automatic, Selec-Trac, rear LSD, LEDs, steel bumpers, leather seats, painted hardtop, Rubicon rock sliders, grille, hood, 17” wheels and unique mud terrain tires.

To me it is the best of both worlds: the comfort and convenience of a Sahara with the looks of a Rubicon. I looked at it with interest, but couldn’t find one with Cold Weather Group at a price I was willing to pay. Moab was a limited edition but there are a few still left out there.

 

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Thanks again for the comments....keep ‘me coming!

I will go take a closer look and a test drive today if it warms up a little bit, 10 degrees right now.

A ‘17 JK with low miles on eBay caught my eye last night but I am still interested in the “new” JL. I have not driven the 4 cyl yet so will be interesting to compare to my ‘14.
 

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Nope 10F.
Actually up to 18 now!!!
Wooo Hooo!
We just moved to NW Arkansas a month ago and left HOT so cal desert behind. I’m through with 122+ degrees in the summer!
 

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On its way to 12* currently 21*.... little chilly for late fall in NE Pa.

2" of snow this morning... Crashes everywhere. Must have been an ice then snow event.... I was sleeping :)
 

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It's 81° here (Phx.) as of current. I guess that I should put my jacket on..lol
 

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Chances are any real fixes to the steering will come with the mid-cycle redesign, which for Wrangler comes every five years —i.e., with the 2023 JL model year. Along with updates to the interior, to the electronics, and new wheel designs.

PS - there should be a Sahara 80th Anniversary Edition out by this time next year!
I honestly think the steering issue is related to having an electronic steering system with the solid front axle. I doubt FCA will go back to a hydraulic unit and give up the mpg savings the electronic unit offers.

I imagine at some point they will give Wrangler both the Off-Road+ and front TrailCam features from Gladiator.
 

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Chances are any real fixes to the steering will come with the mid-cycle redesign, which for Wrangler comes every five years —i.e., with the 2023 JL model year. Along with updates to the interior, to the electronics, and new wheel designs.

PS - there should be a Sahara 80th Anniversary Edition out by this time next year!


No problems with the steering on my 2020.


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