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Noob looking for advice for upgrading with a lift for bigger wheels

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Have a 2013 Sahara JK Unlimited still with the stock wheels; tire size is currently 255/70R18. Love it to death, but it needs bigger tires for a more "Jeep-like" aesthetic look.

Saw a nice setup the other day with a wheel size of 325/60R18, so that is what I'm shooting for.
325/60/1833.2"x 13.3

Full disclosure: I am not sure of the offset / backspacing of these stock rims, so if anyone knows, it would save me some time and effort removing the spare (and knowing me, mismeasurement). If it helps, here is a photo of the wheels.
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Based on advice from a supplier, they suggested 10" wheels for that size tire, and a 3.5 to 4" lift to provide enough clearance. They also mentioned that much lift might require a brake line extension, as well as a different speedometer gear for the bigger tire.

There are different types of lifts, and hope that I can maintain the nice "smooth" ride that I currently get. Any thoughts on types/brands?

That's all I have so far. I want to avoid getting blindsided by other parts/issues, and to have everything ready for the install (and avoid having to overpay for unforeseen parts at the dealership), so if anyone has any additional insight it would be appreciated.

Thanks.

--Mike
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Welcome from Arizona.
Welcome to the Forum, from Cave Creek AZ.
No need to take spare off if those are OEM wheels. Input you vehicle info here to find that information (offset will be the “et” part in the Rim row).
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I s’pose you need the actual website 😎

As for lift kits and such:

I kept hearing AEV is a good lift as well as Rock Krawler. I went with the AEV DualSport since it was in stock at my dealership.

I had 33x14.5x15 tires on my 93 YJ and just be prepared for a wild ride on the road 😛. My tires wanted to follow every nook and cranny on the blacktop and I was constantly steering. Eventually you’ll get good at spotting cracks and will become an ace at avoiding them.

And welcome, Mike! Glad you joined!
Jason
Have a 2013 Sahara JK Unlimited still with the stock wheels; tire size is currently 255/70R18. Love it to death, but it needs bigger tires for a more "Jeep-like" aesthetic look.

Saw a nice setup the other day with a wheel size of 325/60R18, so that is what I'm shooting for.
325/60/1833.2"x 13.3

Full disclosure: I am not sure of the offset / backspacing of these stock rims, so if anyone knows, it would save me some time and effort removing the spare (and knowing me, mismeasurement). If it helps, here is a photo of the wheels.

Based on advice from a supplier, they suggested 10" wheels for that size tire, and a 3.5 to 4" lift to provide enough clearance. They also mentioned that much lift might require a brake line extension, as well as a different speedometer gear for the bigger tire.

There are different types of lifts, and hope that I can maintain the nice "smooth" ride that I currently get. Any thoughts on types/brands?

That's all I have so far. I want to avoid getting blindsided by other parts/issues, and to have everything ready for the install (and avoid having to overpay for unforeseen parts at the dealership), so if anyone has any additional insight it would be appreciated.

Thanks.

--Mike
Welcome Aboard! I am not a JK owner but 3.5 to 4 inches of lift seems like a lot to fit 33s. I may be wrong and maybe someone else can give you more detailed information. If you want to do that much lift you always can but I don't think you would NEED that much to clear 33s. The higher you go the more involved and complicated lifts can get. If you are not getting the answers you are hoping for you could try reposting this in the JK section where you will probably get a greater response. The Wisconsin section of this forum is not super active. I know, I am from Wisconsin so I check this section semi-regularly. The other thing you can do is search the forum as well as scroll the JK section and look for similar questions, there are always a lot of lift/tire questions.
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OP - first you need to decide how you are going to use the Jeep. Throwing $ and random aftermarket parts at it will be expensive and if not done right will make the Jeep very unpleasant to drive. This forum is full of members asking what is wrong as their Jeep (which they just purchased used) is a bear to drive on the highway. A 3-4" lift if done right can be expensive.

A set of 5 18x10" wheels will cost you about 1200 to 1300 dollars and you will have to add in an additional amount for upgraded spare mount for you will not be able to put that wheel and tire combo on the stock carrier, not to mention that the tire and wheel combo will exceed the weight limit of 85 pounds for the stock carrier. You have an extremely limited choice of tires in that size and all are LR E which has stiffer side walls. These are basically tires for HD pickups. In addition, IMHO, the tread pattern is that of a weak to moderate AT tire, more in the keeping of the Bridgestone Dueler AT tires that came on your Sahara.

If you want 33" tires, there are a lot of far better combos to go with. I am running 33" tires on my '17 Chief without a lift. The Chief is a Sahara special edition, but came with 17" wheels and BFG KM Mud Terrain tires(Rubicon Recon style wheels, but in silver). I wanted to get rid of the tires, and took the opportunity to replace the wheels as well and go to 33" tires. The actual size of tire is an LT285/70R17 which measures 32.8" tall and are 11.2" wide. (About 1/2" shorter and more importantly 1.6" narrower than the 325/60R18 tires.) I replaced the wheels with 17x8.5" wheels with 5.2" of backspace to move the tire/wheel combo out a bit to clear the suspension. (Jeep JK and most JL original wheels are 7.5" wide and 6" of backspace). Also keep in mind that the wider the tire, the greater the rolling resistance of the tire and corresponding MPGs. Tall skinny tires get better mileage than short wider tires, and for the same height, the more narrow the tire, the better the mileage.

The wheels I went with to go with the retro styling of the Chief are the Quadratec CJ Retro wheels which are white spoke wheels, but in aluminum instead of the original steel and as stated 17" instead of the original 15". The combo of tire and wheel is slightly heavier than stock at about 77 pounds (51 pounds for the tire and approximately 26 pounds for the wheel).

I am very satisfied with the BFG KO2 tires I got, based on many recommendations of other members. They are more aggressive than the majority of the "AT" style tires, yet in the LR C rating they are very well mannered on the road and have the 3 peak winter tire rating. (Useful for many members but not needed here in S. Georgia).

Quadratec has over 1400 wheels listed for the JK. You can select the size, offset, bolt pattern etc. Quadratec is a Jeep only supplier, so everything on their website will fit a Jeep. When you see a wheel that you like, call and get a quote. At that time ask to be set up in the computer for the Wrangler Forum discount. It will pay most of the sales tax for you. Later it will be applied to on line orders but doesn't show up until your purchase hits your card and the invoice in generated (about the time the shipment is prepared).
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rgreen65 gave great advice!!!
rgreen65 gave great advice!!!
I don't know about the technical part of rgreen65's advice (I have an old YJ) but the first paragraph is spot on. Hang out here on the forum for a while, watch for posts of successful modifications and formulate a plan based on how you want to use your Wrangler. Once you have a clear plan, post it in a new thread and ask for comments. You'll find the more experienced Jeepers to be very willing to help.

It sucks to spend a lot of dough, only to cause your Jeep to misbehave.

Good Luck, L.M.
I didn't jump right on those tires. There was another thread on here with members discussing the 285s. I asked one of them to post a photo down the side of their Jeep as I wanted the tread to remain under the fender. I then posted a similar one of mine. Here it is:
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I like the 285s better than the factory LT255/75R17 (a common size on the Sport S and Rubicon but not the Sahara) because the fit with no modifications to the Jeep. Now, if I were to go someplace that required a lot of suspension twist, I might rub the underside of the fenders.

As to the YJs, both of mine came with 215/75R15 tires (28") and I ran 235/75R15 (29") on the factory aluminum wheels. I never reset the speedometer, it was just always about 1mph lower than actual.
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Red is 4” lift and 35x12.5
Silver is a leveling kit with 33x12.5


3.5-4” of lift would be WAY too much for 33’s

The red ran 37’s with this lift, with room to spare

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Can I just say that you guys are all awesome; no joke. I am learning a lot, and am better informed than I was a day ago.

A couple things I may not have mentioned earlier:
1) the purpose of the bigger wheels is merely for aesthetic reasons as I don't plan on off-roading. I want a lift just for clearance to prevent rubbing on the fender wells. So I'm thinking a 2" lift would be plenty if I decide to stay with 33s (???); and
2) I am indeed in Wisconsin which has a 2" fender limit so I'm thinking the 325s would exceed the width limit. So I'm back to the drawing board.

If I understand correctly, the stock Sahara 18" wheels have an offset of 44.45mm (1.75"), but I can't find any info on the backspacing. Any thoughts?
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