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Bought a 2011 JKU a while back. It already had this Rough Country 4 inch coil lift on it. And it has 285/70/17 nitro terra grapplers. The lift drives and rides like crap. It's rough and the geometry is all out of whack I'm quite positive. I am considering going back to stock springs and shocks and a terflex level. I don't plan on going bigger then 33s and only off road really mild a couple times a month. The whole goal is to improve the drive and ride. Plus I think the level will look better with the 33s. What do you guys think? Good idea?
 

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Yep good idea.

With 33's a leveling kit is all you need and everything stays in proportion and you will find your jeep will drive like stock again, but be even more planted on the ground with the wider 33's.

Also your drive line components will thank you.

I've run my leveling kit with 305/70/16 (33's) for over 2.5 years without any issues what so ever and it has performed just fine for the type of wheeling I've done.
 

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Yep good idea. With 33's a leveling kit is all you need and everything stays in proportion and you will find your jeep will drive like stock again, but be even more planted on the ground with the wider 33's. Also your drive line components will thank you. I've run my leveling kit with 305/70/16 (33's) for over 2.5 years without any issues what so ever and it has performed just fine for the type of wheeling I've done.
that's what I'm hoping for. This rough country stuff is pretty stiff. Do you know, when I do the swap I plan to loosen all the bolts and retighten them at the new ride height. It has off set cam bolts on the front lower control arms. Can I just loosen them and retighten them? Or should I just replace them with regular bolts since I'm going down to just the leveling kit?
 

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Make sure you remove the drop pitman arm and track bar bracket if installed. You will have to locate a stock Pitman arm.
yeah I will remove both front and rear brackets. 4 wheel parts show a stock pitman arm online. Do you know about the cam bolts? Can they just be loosened and then retightened or should I just remove them and put regular grade 8 back in with the level ?
 

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I see adds on craigslist all the time for stock jeep parts because people are going aftermarket and selling the stock. Just today I saw springs, shocks swaybar links and pitman arm, all with less than 50 miles for $100.
 

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yeah I will remove both front and rear brackets. 4 wheel parts show a stock pitman arm online. Do you know about the cam bolts? Can they just be loosened and then retightened or should I just remove them and put regular grade 8 back in with the level ?
Well you have a few options.
#1 leave them in. Most cam kits add I believe 1.5° caster. not enough to cause a problem with a small lift.
#2 Google cam bolt eliminators.
#3 weld up the elongated holes.

Check to make sure there's no cam bolts in the rear.
 

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Well you have a few options. #1 leave them in. Most cam kits add I believe 1.5° caster. not enough to cause a problem with a small lift. #2 Google cam bolt eliminators. #3 weld up the elongated holes. Check to make sure there's no cam bolts in the rear.
the rear bolts look stock to me.
 

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Do you have the stock springs already? If not, it would make more sense to buy the RK 1.5 springs and not bother with the spacers.
 

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So it's ok to leave the cam bolts with the leveling kit? Are they adjustable where they could be changed for the leveling kit with an alignment ?
 

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You're doing the right thing by getting rid of that low budget RC lift. Go all the way and if you have them, get rid of the lousy cam bolts. Welding is the best option.

You might be able to trade your lift to someone for their stock parts. Shot for a set of 19/60 coils.
 

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You're doing the right thing by getting rid of that low budget RC lift. Go all the way and if you have them, get rid of the lousy cam bolts. Welding is the best option. You might be able to trade your lift to someone for their stock parts. Shot for a set of 19/60 coils.
I hope so. Everyone says I will be much happier with the ride and drive on the stock suspension.
 

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Is there anything else I should be concerned about, Coming down from the lift to just a leveling kit? Other than getting a front end alignment. I already have stock shocks and springs and Pitman arm. And plan to remove the track bar brackets on the front and the rear.
 

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What did you decide on for leveling?

If you are still going to keep a couple of inches of lift, you might just leave the cam bolts in for now to adjust caster as needed. You can use these to remove the cam bolts, but then if caster is a little low (every Jeep is a little different) then you are back to adding a set of TF Sport lower control arms to get it back.

Do you have stock track bars? Once the brackets are off, that should put you back pretty close. Just make sure to remove the bump stops, etc. that may have been added. Also, what do you have for sway bar links?
 

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What did you decide on for leveling? If you are still going to keep a couple of inches of lift, you might just leave the cam bolts in for now to adjust caster as needed. You can use these to remove the cam bolts, but then if caster is a little low (every Jeep is a little different) then you are back to adding a set of TF Sport lower control arms to get it back. Do you have stock track bars? Once the brackets are off, that should put you back pretty close. Just make sure to remove the bump stops, etc. that may have been added. Also, what do you have for sway bar links?
I'm going with the teraflex spacer kit. I have stock springs, shocks, and pitman arm to put on. And all the control arms are stock. I'm going to leave the cam bolts and just remove the track bar brackets and keep the stock track bars. I'll replace the lift sway bar links with the ones provided with the leveling kit. I will also replace the drop pitman arm with a stock one. Then hopefully all I will need is a front end alignment.
 

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I'm going with the teraflex spacer kit. I have stock springs, shocks, and pitman arm to put on. And all the control arms are stock. I'm going to leave the cam bolts and just remove the track bar brackets and keep the stock track bars. I'll replace the lift sway bar links with the ones provided with the leveling kit. I will also replace the drop pitman arm with a stock one. Then hopefully all I will need is a front end alignment.
Sounds like a plan to me!
 

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I'm assuming only thing that would really change for the alignment would be the caster right ? Shouldnt effect toe or camber I wouldn't think.
Depending on the amount of caster change, the others might move a little, but not enough to cause concern. If in spec now, will probably stay in spec. Hopefully they can get you to about 4.5 caster...
 

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Depending on the amount of caster change, the others might move a little, but not enough to cause concern. If in spec now, will probably stay in spec. Hopefully they can get you to about 4.5 caster...
OK. Im planning on just having it aligned after anyway. Thats one of the biggest reasons I am getting rid of the lift is because of the way it rides and drives. Plus I think it will look much better on 33s with the level rather then the 4 inch lift. I plan to stick with the 33s. I just hope the ride and drive improves as well. I have no use for that big of lift. Only do mild off roading and mainly stays on city streets lol.
 
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