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Hey guys, so I'm getting ready for my next rig and I have to say with the D44 axles out back of the Sport and same engine in all JKs and the differences in price between Rubi vs Sport I'm having a hard time justifying the price difference.

What do the new Rubi's have that differ from the Sport other than:

4:1 trans case
d44 up front
4:11 gears (not a biggie, I will be ordering with 3.73)
electronic sway bar disconnects
front/rear e-locker
Pretty hood sticker


Am I missing anything to justify the huge difference in price?

I'm looking for a rig for running fire roads and some rough trails at the cottage maybe twice a month, otherwise it'll be on the road.

I'm leaning towards a Sport with connectivity package, 3.73s, hardtop (no soft top, I'll buy a trek NX) tube rails and that's about it.

First thing I will be doing is leveling kit and 33x12.5x16 on DC2's or the Moabs from Quadratec.


I think the above mentioned rig will suit my needs.. but I don't want to make a decision I may regret, so I'd like to hear some opinions on why a Rubi is much better rig over a Sport other than the lockers..

Out of curiosity if I wanted to throw a locker in the sport, anyone know what it would cost? I'm thinking 2Kish?

Is there a big difference between a Rubi D44 and a Sport D44 in terms of gusseting, spline count, etc?

For the difference in price, I'm thinking I could out fit a Sport with more goodies than a Rubi comes factory with if I wanted..

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If you're in the opinion that the differences are "not much", then that tells me that you see no need for those features and hence, no need for a Rubi. Based on that, you're better off saving the money and go with the Sport.

To those who do benefit from the lockers, the 44 up front, the disconnects, etc, that price difference is actually a good deal (unless you want specific lockers or Dana 44, etc).
 

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I hate to be the guy that points to the search button instead of answering, but there have been countless threads on numerous forums all arguing and working out the math on this.

The general consensus seems to be you would be hard pressed to buy a sport and then replace all the parts to rubi-equivalents and come out ahead (you're looking at $1500-$2000 for the two lockers alone). If you factor in install and labor costs, it becomes even more lopsided towards the rubi.

Conversely, it makes more sense to purchase a sport if you're planning on doing a major build as you're replacing less expensive parts.

Of course, it also comes down to what you think you want and/or need. That's something you have to decide on :)
 

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Rubicons hold resale value better, if that's a concern.

Also, don't forget the rubi rails and better rims with 32" MT tires vs. straight sport.

If you plan on doing a lot of mods, sport is the way to go. If you want the most capable factory Wrangler, Rubicon is it.
 

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I'm looking for a rig for running fire roads and some rough trails at the cottage maybe twice a month, otherwise it'll be on the road.
Doesn't sound like this type of driving would be any problem at all for a base model - The lockers / sway disconnects probably won't be worth it in my opinion.

I have a sport - and I've found ground clearance and lack of armor to be the largest limiting factor so far. If I got into a situation where I actually needed the lockers / sway disconnects - I'd probably also need a big lift kit.
 

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I had the same reservations regarding sport vs rubicon

I ended up getting a sport and could not be happier

I have been off roading about 8 times, and on some fairly tough terrain, and will say there hasn't been a moment when I said "hmm, I should have gotten a rubicon." I wheel with several others who have rubicons and have been to the same places.

In fact, the rubicons break more than the sport, it may give wheelers a false sense of security.
 

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I'm looking for a rig for running fire roads and some rough trails at the cottage maybe twice a month, otherwise it'll be on the road.
It sounds like for your needs the Sport would be your best bang for the buck. You could use the saved money for your upgrades (seat covers, underseat locking storage, bumper, winch, new headunit, etc.....). :)
 

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Buy the sport, enjoy lower monthly payments and cheaper sticker, and upgrade to your liking. :)
 

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I hate to be the guy that points to the search button instead of answering, but there have been countless threads on numerous forums all arguing and working out the math on this.

The general consensus seems to be you would be hard pressed to buy a sport and then replace all the parts to rubi-equivalents and come out ahead (you're looking at $1500-$2000 for the two lockers alone). If you factor in install and labor costs, it becomes even more lopsided towards the rubi.

Conversely, it makes more sense to purchase a sport if you're planning on doing a major build as you're replacing less expensive parts.

Of course, it also comes down to what you think you want and/or need. That's something you have to decide on :)

Jag, thanks for pointing out the "search" button. I'm on enough forums, I should have thought of that :doh:


The difference between a base sport and rubi here in Canada (on Jeep.ca) is $19,945 vs. $31,045.

$11K price difference I think would cover quite a bit of mods. Rims/tires (33s or 35s), lift,LSD for the front, sway bar disconnects and I think maybe still have funds left over.. however I will admit I haven't done the math yet.

Off to study one of the many other threads... :hide:
 

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Buy the sport, enjoy lower monthly payments and cheaper sticker, and upgrade to your liking. :)
There shouldn't be any monthly payments.. Just trying to decide which will have a greater impact on my piggy bank... a stock Rubi or modded Sport..
 

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If you want one with all the fancy bells and whistles jump on a rubicon. if you plan on modding to a certain degree then save the extra duckets and get a sport or sport S.

i originally wanted a 10a unlimited rubicon but decided a 2014 copperhead sport would be more to my liking plus i order it the way i want instead of paying for something off a dealership lot with crap i dont need....

anywhoo good luck do keep us updated on what you decide
 

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There shouldn't be any monthly payments.. Just trying to decide which will have a greater impact on my piggy bank... a stock Rubi or modded Sport..
Even so, go with the sport. Maybe eventually you want to upgrade axles or lockers but want something more expensive than the stock rubi stuff (which isn't anything extraordinary). Even though you are spending a little more on paper, you will at least be putting more of your money towards something you really want. For me, I knew dynatrac axles were in my future so I didn't want to put money towards rubi axles. Same with lockers, I knew I would want to run something different.

With a vehicle as easily customized as the wrangler, it doesn't make a lot of sense to fork out the big bucks for a package that isn't even exactly what you want. But, again, it all depends on what you really want.
 

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Rubicons hold resale value better, if that's a concern.

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No they don't. You pay more for them from the get go therefore you may get a little more when selling it or trading it in, but that by far does not mean that they hold their value better. Actually a lot of times I heard the opposite is true. Generally the more expensive a vehicle is the more they loose of their value.
 

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No they don't. You pay more for them from the get go therefore you may get a little more when selling it or trading it in, but that by far does not mean that they hold their value better. Actually a lot of times I heard the opposite is true. Generally the more expensive a vehicle is the more they loose of their value.
Yeah, I would agree the 10k price difference today will not = a 10k price difference in 2020.
 

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less then a year ago I was having the same dilemma and foolishly ended up getting a sport. 9 or 10 months and 14000 miles later I am dealing on a Rubicon and I should have done it from the get go as I would have been further ahead. I thought when I got it I don't need lockers and a 44 front or 4.10 gears and 4.1 transfercase or electric disconnect but one day spent off-roading with 2 rubicons changed all that lol. I did Moab and was happy as a lark in my sport doing the moderate rated trails, but 8 hours of harder core wheeling and seeing how much easier those rubis handled rough rocky steep trails has me rethinking every think lol.
 

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In fact, the rubicons break more than the sport, it may give wheelers a false sense of security.
:rofl: this is news to me. Since when do stronger parts break more?
 

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I'm in this same boat right now. When I build on USAA the price difference is about 5000 difference. I currently live in flat part of TX where the only hills are called over passes or high five interchanges. But I have an interview in Denver and hopes of moving there in the near future. I don't plan on doing any intentional rock crawling and that's what I heard is where the Rubicon parts are crucial. I do have plans of going off road in the mountains and I plan on modest mods like a 2-3" lift with larger tires so I'm leaning towards the sport. But then part of me will probably wish I would have got the JKUR.
 

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Rubicon vs. Sport

I would go for the Rubicon, it is nearing the end of the 2013 model year so check out as many dealers as you can and make the best deal on close outs. Is it worth the price? Probably not but "always buy the very best and you will never be dissatisified" I have a 2012 Rubicon and would not change.:punk:
 
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