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2012 2dr Wrangler...16x8 w/4.25 bs.....285/75/16 AT tires......should I get Bilstein (Yellow) Heavy Duty Gas Shock Set for 290.00 or go with Daystar 1-3/4" Comfort Ride Lift Kit in Black with Scorpion Shocks at about the same price. Not offroad very much...but when I need to I want it to work...


 

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Sub'd interested in this as well. I would like to think just changing shocks would do something great. Lets see what the pro's here say.
 

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I'd tell you Bilsteins, without hesitation, except for one thing:

If you get the 5100's, they're 27.5" long, which means your '12's driveshaft will contact your exhaust pipe if you disconnect your swaybars. No ifs and or buts. You'll tear the boot on your stock ds, it will fling grease all over your undercarriage, and eventually your ds will seize. Might take awhile, but it will happen.

So, since you don't offroad much, I'd recommend the Daystar, as long as the Scorpion shocks are LESS THAN 27.5".

One of the quirks of owning a '12.
 

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The shocks he mentioned are not the 5100's. 5100's are meant for lifted JK's while the HD's (yellow body) and meant for 0" lift.

There will be a ride difference between the choices. The Scorpion shocks are hydro shocks so the ride will be similar to stock. Soft and mushy. The Bilstein HD's are self adjusting gas monotube shocks.

The Bilstein HD shocls will give you a much firmer ride and will reduce/eliminate body roll in turns.

I have them along with the stiffest coils and am very pleased with the ride.
 

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Daggo, HD's are what I would need then. I have the soft rear springs, would shocks help with acceleration squat?
 

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I believe they would. The stock shocks can easily be compressed with barely any resistance by hand. The Bilstein HD's are nearly impossible to compress by hand. I made the mistake of jack from the axle instead of the frame and letting the axle drop when I first instralled mine. It was a battle to compress them in order to line up the bottom bolt. After I figured out my mistake, I did this. :facepalm:
 

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I believe they would. The stock shocks can easily be compressed with barely any resistance by hand. The Bilstein HD's are nearly impossible to compress by hand. I made the mistake of jack from the axle instead of the frame and letting the axle drop when I first instralled mine. It was a battle to compress them in order to line up the bottom bolt. After I figured out my mistake, I did this. :facepalm:

Wow, thanks for that heads up! Did you need two jacks to get it back the axle back up? I have had that happen on a car before, let strut out too soon. That made a 30 minute job, a 6 hour job.

I will be purchasing These Bilstein HD's. I don't accelerate fast, but I have noticeable squat from leaving red lights. Stiffer Ride would be nice too. MTH said those 55 springs would be fine, what do you think? Should I have it all replaced? or maybe just do a 1" lift to be part of the club here? :whistling:
 

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If you replace the front and rear springs with 19/60's you'll get up to a 2" lift. I first changed the shocks, then the coils. I didn't use 2 jacks, I just muscled them in. When I did the coils, I lowered the axle and the shocks were a piece of cake to re-attach.
 

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I will be purchasing These Bilstein HD's. I don't accelerate fast, but I have noticeable squat from leaving red lights. Stiffer Ride would be nice too. MTH said those 55 springs would be fine, what do you think? Should I have it all replaced? or maybe just do a 1" lift to be part of the club here? :whistling:
To be clear . . . your 55s are of course fine. BUT, going to Mopar 19s/60s would give you a little lift on your two door and a firmer ride. They would compliment the Bilsteins nicely. But you don't NEED new coils. And if you don't want to lift then you SHOULDN'T get them.
 

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Honestly, I wouldn't mind a small lift, seems 2inch is minimum. So I should shoot for rubi springs, then 5100s, or is that still considered stock 0 lift?

Thank you btw, I do plan on doing this this month
 

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It wopuld still be considered stock. There is no such thing as Rubi springs. Order the 19 front and 60 rear directly from a Mopar dealer and get the HD's. They will fit fine.
 

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The shocks he mentioned are not the 5100's. 5100's are meant for lifted JK's while the HD's (yellow body) and meant for 0" lift.
:facepalm: Another case of not thoroughly reading the op's post. Thanks for the fix.
 

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Tom, again! Many thanks, you are making this transition easier, that is for sure.

My father was a tractor mechanic, so I have the ability to do the mechanical stuff. It's the ordering, does it fit, will it work, type of stuff that gets me.

I am probably going to buy a camera and do a pic tutorial. Found the 4 springs for 167 shipped. I will order shocks next month, then get it all done.

So Bilstein HD's and those OEM springs will give a stock 2" lift...Me likes.
 

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My newb is showing...I had no idea you could order a factory spring for a 2" lift from Mopar. I have been looking at all kinds of aftermarket lifts. Good info!
 

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My newb is showing...I had no idea you could order a factory spring for a 2" lift from Mopar. I have been looking at all kinds of aftermarket lifts. Good info!
Hey Snail, I am right there with you, I am kind of stoked by that as well.

You are not too far up the road from me.
 
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