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Anyone has this combo? I am about to pull the trigger on this and want to get some feedback on how you like it, pros and cons. I won't be installing a winch at this time.

I have a 2015 2-door JK Willys. With the extra weight, will I need to upgrade the suspension or anything like that?

How much space is there between the brush guard and the grill? Will I be able to remove the grill with the brush guard in place?

What did you do with the factory fog lights? There is no provisions for the fog lights. Can I use those connections for some other lights?

Thanks in advance for any feedback you can give me!
 

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I have m.o.d. w the full length ends.

The instructions were completely backwards for install.

Its held up pretty well, just make sure everything is tight.

Qtec auxiliary lights plug directly in.

If I were doing it over I would get a one piece. That's all I got.
 

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I have the XRC bumper with the bull bar, which i think is what you're referring to brush guard ?, if so, you wont have any issues taking the grill out when you need to, i have no cons to report, no issues during install of the bumper itself, didn't have to relocate anything to to get it installed.

I had a slightly delay installing my winch, as i had to grind a small section in the bumper to make it fit, really a two minutes job, as i had to look for an extension cord to power the grinder in my garage :)
2015-09-04_10-56-37 by SilverFJ RSM, on Flickr

And also another delay while installing the bull bar, as one of the bolts is in such a spot, that you need to be creative to hold down the nut that is supposed to tight the bolt down, i used an screwdriver to make leverage and hold the nut in place while i was torquing down the bolt from above. not a big deal, but i was cursing that spot while trying to find a way to tight that damn bolt down :)

Other than that, the thing seems to be well constructed, i've bumped some boulders with it, and the only thing i've needed is simply rustoleoum black to cover up the marks.
You'll loose the fogs in the stock bumper, the connectors can be simply tucked down underneath the safety bar, the bumper comes with a skid that protects that area, and you need to drill it to install it, fairly easy, but the instructions are not exactly clear on how to do this step, little imagination combine with the instruction pics will show you the way. You can get some pod lights, or a 14" light bar, and mount them in the bullbar, plus use the stock wiring connector to power that setup.

The bumper is not that heavy, i think with bullbar is 60lbs or so.
 

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Ahh i see why you were asking about the grill :)
i'd figure, since the brush bar uses the same muting points,that you should not have issues taking the grill out, even if you had a winch, not the same thing, but as an example of the clearance between the bull bar and grill, i've never seeing the brush bar mounted though, so i'm just speculating, you can ask the folks at 4wp and see what they say.

You can install the winch later on, but i'm sure you'll have to take the bar off.
I did the winch after having the bumper installed, but i had to some grinding and drilling, plus the damn winch is heavy, so i had to go back and forth several times to find the right holes and align those with my winch, the bumper has 2-3 different hole locations i guess to fit different winches, i had to drill one of them a little bigger to fit the winch.

2015-10-18_05-34-47 by SilverFJ RSM, on Flickr

View without the bull bar, so you can see the mounting points for more likely any of the bar configurations they have.
2015-09-13_09-08-15 by SilverFJ RSM, on Flickr
 

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I have the MOD bumper with Crawler ends and bullbar, and have pulled my grill a couple of times, No sweat.....
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