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I have read through an old post back in 2017 Alternative spare tire mounts and I know that some of you were part of this discussion. So those of you who were, what did you end up doing/deciding on?

I have been doing what seams like hours of researching, (How I found the old post) on tire carriers. After installing the metalclaok armor on my jeep, 70lbs per fender + the weight of the flares, alot of weight added to the rear end. Anyway, I am looking for ideas on how to carry a spare? I know this doesn't help much with the weight, but I did find a swing down carrier that is lighter then the tire carrier I have, thought about mounting the spare on top of a Garvin rack but then thought, "How the hell am I going to get the tire up and off that thing?

I hope we can get a good discussion on this topic?
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If you DD your jeep, groceries and such, I wouldn鈥檛 go the swing down route. If you don鈥檛 DD, it鈥檚 not a bad idea. It gives you a good departure angle. I do think it might possibly make getting the spare out on a trail a little more involved/difficult though. Especially if the trail is tight or you are off camber.
 

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My rear bumper/tire carrier is a Warn 65509/ Warn 64337. I can't possibly use a swing down tire carrier because I removed the rear seat and have 2 storage systems installed, a Tuffy 240-01 and a Tuffy 131-01.
Swing down does not seem practical.
 

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My rear bumper/tire carrier is a Warn 65509/ Warn 64337. I can't possibly use a swing down tire carrier because I removed the rear seat and have 2 storage systems installed, a Tuffy 240-01 and a Tuffy 131-01.
Swing down does not seem practical.
My rear bumper/tire carrier is a Warn 65509/ Warn 64337. I can't possibly use a swing down tire carrier because I removed the rear seat and have 2 storage systems installed, a Tuffy 240-01 and a Tuffy 131-01.
Swing down does not seem practical.
Thats another thing that I did not mention, I am planning on a fridge, which intern is going to need a slide-out of some sorts, "They are Pricy! I Yi-yi! If it isn't one thing its another! Why the hell I have not thought of that fridge... all freaking morning, "God, I swear I'm getting Alzheimer's!
 

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With you adding the fridge would make the swing down a hard no in my eyes. To much of a hassle when you want to access the fridge.
 

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With you adding the fridge would make the swing down a hard no in my eyes. To much of a hassle when you want to access the fridge.
I was just out there doing some measuring and the cargo area is 33 1/2" from the concrete, so if I build a box back there with, lets say with an 8" drawer, that will be a 10" cabinet with a slide on top of that, that is another, say 2" for the slide/deck the fridge sets on, so that puts the deck height at around 45" inches + fridge height. I don't own a fridge so I don't know how high it would end up being? Heck, I might need a ramp to get in it? It would sure be a bummer to be broke down and you can't reach your beer!:ROFLMAO:
 

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As nice as slide out drawers and wooden shelves sounds i wouldent want all that weight along with 70 pound fenders on my jeep. I prefer to keep it simple and light as possible and my jeep still weighs too much. I have turned my 4.0 into a 2.5
 

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As nice as slide out drawers and wooden shelves sounds i wouldent want all that weight along with 70 pound fenders on my jeep. I prefer to keep it simple and light as possible and my jeep still weighs too much. I have turned my 4.0 into a 2.5
Yes weight is my concern also. I want, or would like to pull a tear drop, and would like to have my fridge in it and out of the back of my jeep. My problem is finding a bumper that is small and light, no luck in finding one after what seems like forever, since I started this project a year ago.
 

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Up date, I finally found a bumper with a class III hitch! Yeeha!
Now I can continue with my project as I started, which brings me back too, where do I mount my spare?
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I will not be able to mount it to the teardrop, since the spare for the trailer rests there and I don't want to add any weight to the hitch? Its starting to feel like my spare will be in the jeep with me?
I apologize for getting off subject!
 
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Back to the question, Tire carrier, swing down or swing out. When I look at the two, it almost surrounds the idea of, "What's your age? Swing out carrier - You have too lift the tire up or down from the carrier, and as I get older it is getting more difficult to lift it up and on the carrier. A swing down eliminates the lifting of the full weight of the tire, taking it off/on the carrier only requires you to roll the tire on and off the carrier. So the pro's point toward a swing down... at least for us older folks. The pro's for the swing out, is easy access to the back of the jeep.

So how do you weigh the pro's and con's?
 

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When you refer to swing down are you referring to one鈥檚 like the Genright? I haven鈥檛 seen any others? I toyed with having my welding buddy fab me one but currently sits in the bed(rear seat is long gone). When I did the rubicon in 2016 I had it vertical in the bed, ratchet strapped to the roll bar on the passenger sideit was secure but I actually liked that location. More room for stuff in the bed. I鈥檇 like to make something there, possibly, if I find the time.


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Thats another thing that I did not mention, I am planning on a fridge, which intern is going to need a slide-out of some sorts, "They are Pricy! I Yi-yi! If it isn't one thing its another! Why the hell I have not thought of that fridge... all freaking morning, "God, I swear I'm getting Alzheimer's!
If you are planning a fridge in the back, then you need a tire carrier that goes to the side, no questions asked. Then if you EVER plan on pulling a trailer, again , the tire needs to swing to the side. Since you already have body armor you could get a good body mounted swing away tire carrier. I can recommend one though, I have only used the Teraflex one for, I can鈥檛 even remember how long, I rolled and totaled my JK and bent my hi-lift, that was bolted to the Teraflex unit. I took the tire carrier off of that Jeep and bolted it on to my 4-door. Still in that Jeep and still perfect. Soon, off topic a little. Swing to the side tire carrier.
 

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If you are planning a fridge in the back, then you need a tire carrier that goes to the side, no questions asked. Then if you EVER plan on pulling a trailer, again , the tire needs to swing to the side. Since you already have body armor you could get a good body mounted swing away tire carrier. I can recommend one though, I have only used the Teraflex one for, I can鈥檛 even remember how long, I rolled and totaled my JK and bent my hi-lift, that was bolted to the Teraflex unit. I took the tire carrier off of that Jeep and bolted it on to my 4-door. Still in that Jeep and still perfect. Soon, off topic a little. Swing to the side tire carrier.
I have a rear bumper with a swing out tire carrier, I am chucking it in the heap of parts I took off my jeep. Tire on the back is a no go, and I am still trying to figure out where exactly I am going to put it. The fridge I have decided to mount in the teardrop trailer I want to buy. The rear of the jeep needs to be for cargo only, I have thought about a Garvin Expedition Rack and mount my tire to it, and hope like hell when I get it up there, I never have to use it, cause... you know what, thats not going to work either. Anyway thanks!
 

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I see some Jeeps Wranglers and early Cherokees with the spare tire in the roof rack. I always wonder how far that spare tire will bounce when they need to get it down in case of a flat. Maybe lower it down with a rope?
How did they get it up there? Maybe stand up on the roof rack and pull it up with a rope?

I like the idea of using a ratchet strap to secure the spare to the roll bar. I think I'll give that a try. (No back seat). When I'm using my Jeep as a daily, I leave the spare home and have a plug kit and a can of Fix-A-Flat in the console.

Good Luck, L.M.
 

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I鈥檓 probably going to start leaving the spare at home since I carry a plug kit and compressor. I was thinking about doing some sort of d ring mounts inside to strap it to for use on longer trips or trails.
 

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I always wonder how far that spare tire will bounce when they need to get it down in case of a flat. Maybe lower it down with a rope?
How did they get it up there? Maybe stand up on the roof rack and pull it up with a rope?
Ha-ha! My thoughts exactly. Ya when I first thought about mounting it up there was, "It will be my luck when I drop this off the roof it's going to bounce and roll a mile before I can get down and chase it, so ya, that's what I imagine happening, lol! Hopefully when, if ever I get the teardrop trailer I will find a place to mount my spare on it.
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I added these to existing bolts and ratchet strap the tire in the bed, I believe I may have made the back hole but I can鈥檛 remember?
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I used a pre runner strap for mounting tires in a truck bed. I love it because it's light weight, dont block rearward view, tire is quick and easy to remove, center of gravity is a bit lower. The only downside is losing the back seat which is too small for adults anyways.

I also love the hilift jack mount because it's easy to remove and protected from the weather so it dont rust up.

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I made this plate to prevent the rear D ring from pulling though the floor. I glued it in place with POR15 patch and painted it with the same stuff to keep it from rusting.
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I love my LOD bumper/tire carrier. Opens with the tailgate (swing out) and is easy to use. Def not light but I can set up my suspension (coilovers) to whatever my load is so I don't really care. Plus I like the armor on the rear corners.
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I used a pre runner strap for mounting tires in a truck bed. I love it because it's light weight, dont block rearward view, tire is quick and easy to remove, center of gravity is a bit lower. The only downside is losing the back seat which is too small for adults anyways.

I also love the hilift jack mount because it's easy to remove and protected from the weather so it dont rust up.

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I made this plate to prevent the rear D ring from pulling though the floor. I glued it in place with POR15 patch and painted it with the same stuff to keep it from rusting.
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I like that strap! What did that cost?


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