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I am planning on upgrading my 130 to a Pioneer NEX with an amp. However, hoping to do this upgrade in stages, I was going to first replace the 4 - 6.5” speakers with kickers. My concern is am I doing double the work? Once I get to the adding the head unit and amp, will I be needing to run all new speaker wires from the amp to the individual speakers and have to reopen the dash? Does the Maestro thing help with that? Thanks.
 

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Do yourself a favor and wait until you have the money to do it all at once. The issue is the stock speakers are 2 ohm and while 4 ohm speakers will work they will play at about half volume. And if you turn the stock radio up past about 75% you will ruin the speakers due to clipping.

Unless you plan on running huge power the stock wiring is fine.
 

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Crap...I just finished installing 4 of those 77kick10’s today. Next, I’ll probably upgrade the head unit and amp, and last will do the alpine oem sub /amp. I’m not going for an audiophile setup. I think the acoustics of the Wrangler is pretty limiting anyway.
 

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Again that is fine just don't turn up the volume past 75%.

As to the acoustics of a Wrangler it is actually not bad and it can be made very good. It is a rectangle which is about the best you get in car audio, it is Explorers and the like that win competitions. Soft tops and no top are what make it hard. But to get quality out of the vehicle it will not be cheap and that holds many people back. But I can tell you my Jeep sounds as good if not better than my home system and it is a soft top. Of course you could buy just about any lift out there short of a coilover system for what I have in it.
 
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Thanks. I agree. I have gotten some pretty decent sounds in my last Jeep. I was just getting defensive because someone was disparaging the fidelity of the cheapo kicker speakers I just installed. By the time I’m ultimately done, I’m sure at least my ears will be very happy. And I can always upgrade those Kickers later on. They were the cheapest speakers by far that I’ve ever bought, but hey - I’m easily impressed...LOL
 

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The issue is the stock speakers are 2 ohm and while 4 ohm speakers will work they will play at about half volume. And if you turn the stock radio up past about 75% you will ruin the speakers due to clipping.
I just completed a similar speaker upgrade, installing Kickers in all four locations. But in addition to the Kickers, I installed four Pioneer TS-T110 tweeters, replacing the stock "twiddlers".

Reviewing the wiring diagrams, the twiddlers are wired in parallel with the woofers. Since the Kickers and the Pioneers each present an impedance of 4 ohms, the combined load of each channel is 2 ohms, which I think keeps my stock 130S stereo happy. And it sounds more than adequate for my aging ears.
 

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Sounds like a logical upgrade.... something I might do. Did you notice an improvement?

I know most of this is pretty subjective....and I know I don’t hear dig whistles anymore either... LOL
 
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