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Got my 35-12.5-15 on a steel wheel bolted to my stock carrier. Is this a bad idea? The tire/wheel seems about twice as heavy as the piddly stock wheel/tire.
 

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It's probably a bad idea, and you should probably start researching aftermarket options.

BUT, it's certainly not an urgent thing. Keep it tight so there's no vibration. Make sure that the rubber stop/puck is hitting the tire, so it can move around. And try not to use your tailgate a whole bunch. People have survived that for years.

I would say if you do a lot of rough roads, or a lot of gravel washboard roads, then the frequent motion and vibration can cause damage more quickly.

Or if you open and close the tailgate a lot, you might want to consider aftermarket fixes sooner.
 

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I have heard folks here say that after the years of carrying this size or even smaller that the door barely opens now. Probably too much stress on the hinges.
 

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I did the same thing with my 35. Modded the 3rd brake light to see over the tire and bolted a little plate on the bumper to hold some of the weight of the tire. It worked fine till I bought an after market bumper/swing arm.
 

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Check all the bolts that hold the carrier to the jeep, make sure they are tight and not rusted up to bad. As well, be sure your hinges are good. Its the bouncing that really causes problems with the weight back there pulling on the tailgate bolts. After wheeling or a bumpy ride, check 'em again...
 

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I did the same thing with my 35. Modded the 3rd brake light to see over the tire and bolted a little plate on the bumper to hold some of the weight of the tire. It worked fine till I bought an after market bumper/swing arm.
I took my 3rd brake light off and the rubber stops on the tailgate to fit mine easier. Although this feed is making me thing i should look at other options....Anyone know if it's illegal to not have a third brake light? .... Sorry kindof off topic question.
 

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I had 33's on steel wheels on my stock carrier it did just fine until I backed into a tree on the trail and cracked it then I was forced to buy a tire carrier and bumper
 

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Been running my 33x9.5 spare for over 3 years without issue, and yes the key is to reduce the amount of vibrations and jarring to the gate by having the spare tightly against the rubber snubbers/spacers. Depending on the backspacing of the wheel, the distance may be just right or too short, in which you'll have to lengthen the snubbers with spacers, or too long (shorten by cutting).



I do have a support bracket tied in to my receiver...


 

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I took my 3rd brake light off and the rubber stops on the tailgate to fit mine easier. Although this feed is making me thing i should look at other options....Anyone know if it's illegal to not have a third brake light? .... Sorry kindof off topic question.
It was the first thing that I removed when I got my Jeep, I thought it looked really out of place on a Jeep, whats the use of having it on if you can't even see it because of the spare. I haven't had any problems, but I think it all depends on where you live, just take it off, if the boys in blue have a problem they'll let you know.
 

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I ran a 32x11x5x15 for 1 1/2 years and the hinges wore out, rattled like hell, and you had to lift on the gate to get it to close right.
 

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I know someone who has had a 35 on the gate since the jeep was new, about 7 years now and it's fine. The secret is getting the weight onto the bumper as shown above.
 

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As far as the third brake light, I don't think there is too much enforced about having it but I'm sure it really comes down to you local law officers and inspection. The stock light fit over my 33 but for looks I made one to fit into the center of the spare like in the picture above.
 

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Ok, coupled with the fact I need to get my hilift on the outside of my jeep, and possibly place for Jerry can, can anyone offer leads on decent bumper/tire carriers? Time to throw more money at the veh-hikkle.
 

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First of all, the factory tire carrier is not even close to being strong enough for a 35 inch spare tire. Mine cracked and failed carrying a 33 inch spare tire.

The spare tire carrier I can recommend is made by Off Road Fabricators in Arizona. One very nice thing about it is that it will work with any bumper since for more strength, it does not bolt to the bumper. Instead, it bolts through the body to hidden brackets bolted to the rear roll bar bases. It's about the strongest and totally sag-free spare tire carrier available.
 

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Whatever bumper/tire carrier you look at, I highly recommend one that uses a axle spindle for the hinge. Makes it very strong and easy to maintain. If you get a bumper with a receiver hitch built in you will need to tie it to the frame. Rokmen has a kit for that.
 

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First of all, the factory tire carrier is not even close to being strong enough for a 35 inch spare tire. Mine cracked and failed carrying a 33 inch spare tire.

The spare tire carrier I can recommend is made by Off Road Fabricators in Arizona. One very nice thing about it is that it will work with any bumper since for more strength, it does not bolt to the bumper. Instead, it bolts through the body to hidden brackets bolted to the rear roll bar bases. It's about the strongest and totally sag-free spare tire carrier available.
It's funny that you would say that as both Blaines and Kats TJ have 35's hanging on the gate and have for years. And both gates open and close smoothly...
 

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I have 33's and decided not to chance the problems at all. Last year I got a HighRock(owned by Bestop) tire carrier and it mounts to the body and ties into the rollbar mount like the one Jerry described, also has a backing plate for the lower mount too. This one is rated for only 35" tires or 200 pounds though I am sure when I get them mounted to 3/16 steel(or aluminum) rear armor it will be able to hold alot more. It opens and closes with the tail gate so there are no extra steps in getting to the back of your Jeep. Which was one of the big factors I chose it over bumper mounted carriers that latch in place. My Jeep is a DD and I need quick access to my "cargo area" for the groceries. :)

Also notice I ditched the 3rd brake light altogether for the much better relocated license place mount and light. It has a plate light and 3rd brake light built in. The sad thing is mine didn't come with the stock light and I went out and bought one for 50 bucks just to trash it not more that 2 months later, though the wires came in handy.

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It's funny that you would say that as both Blaines and Kats TJ have 35's hanging on the gate and have for years. And both gates open and close smoothly...
I'm not sure what you are trying to do here but I don't know what's funnnier... your claim or...

1) My factory spare tire carrier cracked and failed with the weight of a 33" spare tire.

or that

2) That neither Blaine nor Kat have their 35" spare tires mounted on a stock factory spare tire carrier. Both of their spare tire carriers have been reinforced by Blaine and both are set up so the spare tire's weight is sitting on an aftermarket bumper so neither the spare tire bracket nor the tailgate hinges are carrying the weight. Unsupported, neither the hinges nor the mount are strong enough for a 35" tire. When closing either of Blaine's tail gates, the spare tire has to be lifted up as it is closed so its weight is resting on the rear bumper.

So your claim that the factory spare tire carrier being able to support the weight of a 35" or bigger spare tire without problem is pretty silly. Blaine readily tells anyone who asks him that neither the factory spare tire mount nor the tail gate hinges are strong enough for a 35" spare tire without added support and modifications which take the weight of the spare tire off the bracket and hinges.
 
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