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Is anyone successfully running the Synergy tie rod and drag link setup with wheels that have 5.2" backspace (like most AEV and Quadratec wheels)?

I ordered a complete setup from Synergy Thanksgiving week. After talking to them on the phone for about 45 minutes I was sold.

However I just went to their website and was poking around and saw a note that says "max backspacing 4-3/4 and 4-1/2" recommended". Oops.

I have an email out to Synergy & Polyperformance (who will be doing the install for me) but I'm curious about first-hand accounts.

Thanks!
 

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I can't help you with Synergy, but I have AEV Pintlers (1st gen) with SteerSmarts Yeti HD linkages. Tie rod and drag link. No issues.
 

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Return it and call Doetsch Offroad. Their one+ ton steering has a lifetime warranty and is cheaper. It’s the best I’ve ever come across. Made by Jeep people 😏
Thanks, I considered it, but they would require me to replace my $450 Fox steering stabilizer, which kinda negates the cost savings. ;-)


I can't help you with Synergy, but I have AEV Pintlers (1st gen) with SteerSmarts Yeti HD linkages. Tie rod and drag link. No issues.
Thats good to know. Does SteerSmarts have a disclaimer that says they only work with wheels that have no more than 4.75" backspace?

I've been poking around on AEV's forums and it looks like plenty of people are running the Synergy tie rods with Pintler wheels, which have the same backspace as the Hardrock wheels.
 

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I think the manufacturers tend to be conservative with those standards, as it is always hard to predict how a given combo of aftermarket parts will work. I think many of them err on the side of caution, they would rather avoid having people post up that their stuff doesn't fit.
 

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Thats good to know. Does SteerSmarts have a disclaimer that says they only work with wheels that have no more than 4.75" backspace?

I've been poking around on AEV's forums and it looks like plenty of people are running the Synergy tie rods with Pintler wheels, which have the same backspace as the Hardrock wheels.
On Quadratec's listing for the stock-style drag link (bottom mount), there is a disclaimer that it requires at least a 17" wheel with 4.5" backspacing. I had a helper turn the wheel hard over, left and right, before I took the Jeep for a test drive after installation, and I saw no danger of anything hitting my gen 1 Pintlers. I wouldn't think anything of it if I changed them for QTec Hardrock wheels or new gen AEV wheels.
 
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Current generation AEV wheels for JK/JKU -

Salta = BS 5.2" / offset +10mm / 33lbs
Pintler = BS 5.2" / offset +10mm /33lbs
Savegre = BS 5.2" / offset +10mm /33lbs

As an FYI -

Borah = BS 4.9" / offset +4mm / No weight given for either plain or beadlock. But, here is the only approved list of tired for the beadlock application. These are the only tires they have tested. I believe they tested the Patagonia and the bead was too thick as are many others.

Brand Model Size
BFGoodrich All-Terrain KO2 LT285/70R17
BFGoodrich All-Terrain KO2 LT315/70R17
BFGoodrich All-Terrain KO2 34×10.50R17
BFGoodrich All-Terrain KO2 35×12.50R17
BFGoodrich All-Terrain KO2 37×12.50R17
BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain KM2 LT285/70R17
BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain KM2 35×12.50R17
BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain KM2 37×12.50R17
BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain KM3 LT285/70R17
BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain KM3 LT295/70R17
BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain KM3 35×12.50R17
BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain KM3 37×12.50R17
Yokohama Geolander MT G003 LT285/70R17
 

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Current generation AEV wheels for JK/JKU -

Salta = BS 5.2" / offset +10mm / 33lbs
Pintler = BS 5.2" / offset +10mm /33lbs
Savegre = BS 5.2" / offset +10mm /33lbs

As an FYI -

Borah = BS 4.9" / offset +4mm / No weight given for either plain or beadlock. But, here is the only approved list of tired for the beadlock application. These are the only tires they have tested. I believe they tested the Patagonia and the bead was too thick as are many others.

Brand Model Size
BFGoodrich All-Terrain KO2 LT285/70R17
BFGoodrich All-Terrain KO2 LT315/70R17
BFGoodrich All-Terrain KO2 34×10.50R17
BFGoodrich All-Terrain KO2 35×12.50R17
BFGoodrich All-Terrain KO2 37×12.50R17
BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain KM2 LT285/70R17
BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain KM2 35×12.50R17
BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain KM2 37×12.50R17
BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain KM3 LT285/70R17
BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain KM3 LT295/70R17
BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain KM3 35×12.50R17
BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain KM3 37×12.50R17
Yokohama Geolander MT G003 LT285/70R17
I have had a set of each (actually 2 sets of Saltas) and those weights are off. the Pintlers are lightest at about 25.5 and Savgres heaviest at about 31.5lbs and saltas around 27.5lbs.
 

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I have had a set of each (actually 2 sets of Saltas) and those weights are off. the Pintlers are lightest at about 25.5 and Savgres heaviest at about 31.5lbs and saltas around 27.5lbs.
And I believe ther Borah (with trim ring) weigh in at around 41lbs. This is compared to about 29 lbs for the Quadratec Hardrock wheels that I currently run.
 
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