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The Colonel - My 1943 Willys MB build
Eugene the Jeep
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To begin with, I want to go on record saying that I am by no means an expert on Military Jeep restoration. I have done many hours of research (the internet is a wonderful thing) this thread is not a tutorial, I just want to pass on what I have done and learned. For more detailed restoration tips and information I recommend sites like G503.com (and it's sub forum 1943MB.com) as well as many others like Olive-Drab.com.
There are several different types of restoration levels of WWII Jeeps:
- Factory Restoration: This is where you restore everything (and I mean everything) so that it looks just like it did when it rolled out of the factory.
- Motor Pool Restoration: Many Jeeps required repair while in military service and OEM parts may not have been available. For a Motor Pool restoration, you sometimes use non-factory parts but they must be something that could have been used during the war.
- I'm more going with a "Bubba" Restoration: There are so many non-standard things on my Jeep, I'm just going to get it running and to look as good as I can on my limited budget.
-The Jeep -
On the 12th of July, 2013 I found an ad for a "WW2 Willy's Jeep". On July 13th, I bought it for $1000.
I literally had to pull it out of a farmer's field where it had been sitting for the last 8 years. 3 of the 4 tires held air but there was no way I was getting the 4th one inflated since it had a silver dollar sized hole chewed into it by gophers.
I've had a blast restoring it and I still have a loooong ways to go but here are some of it's particulars:
Officially designated as a Willys-Overland MB, Truck, 1/4 ton, 4x4, Command Reconnaissance
Serial Number: 205586
Date of delivery: January 25th, 1943
Its body is a replacement made by the American Central Body company with a serial number of 77989 manufactured in June 1943.
After the war, he was upgraded with a 1950 Studebaker 6-cylinder flat head engine serial number 533870
- Recent History -
- In the mid 1990s, a husband and his wife, in Phoenix started the process of research to find the Jeep he drove during WWII while in the Army. The husband said he had 2 great loves in his life: "His Wife and his Willys". After 4 years of research, they were able to find the exact Jeep he drove while in the Army. Unfortunately, he passed away a few years later and was never able to realize his dream.
- In 2005 it was bought by a couple in Camp Verde as a restoration project for their Father. Due to illness, the project was never started and it sat where it had been parked.
It's pretty much a "Franken Jeep" cobbled together from various vehicles. The frame is original Willys MB, it has a 1950 flat head 6-cylinder Studebaker engine and then there is the body . . .
A previous owner apparently wanted a tail gate (the MB has none) and the fuel filler on the side (the MB filler cap is under the driver's seat). It looked like he didn't want to go through the hassle of rewiring the dash so he chopped the tub in half just forward of the seats and welded the back half of a CJ-2 on to it.
Although I had been told it was a WWII Jeep, I wanted to make sure it was actually a Willys. It took me a while to definitively identify it because many of the identifying features were missing. You can identify an MB frame several ways if, like me you are missing identification numbers, and here are a few.
1. Engine Block
a. Serial number stamped on the engine. The number prefix will tell you the manufacturer. Willys engines have numbers that start with the letters "MB" (MB123456) whereas Ford engine numbers usually start with "GPW" (GPW123456) I couldn't use this since it currently has a Studebaker engine.
2. Body or "Tub"
a. This is a more complex determination owing to the variations in bodies used throughout the war. Before late 1943 Willys and Ford used separately manufactured bodies. Starting in early 1944 one manufacturer (American Central Manufacturing Co.) began building bodies for both Ford and Willys. These bodies are referred to as "composite" bodies because they have characteristics of the earlier Ford and Willys bodies combined into one body type. I couldn't use this since a previous owner had pieced together a military (most likely MB) body with a CJ-2 body..
3. Frame
a. The easiest way to distinguish between the two frame types is to inspect the front frame crossmember that is beneath the radiator. The Ford GPW frame uses an inverted "U" shaped steel member here. It is open on the bottom. The Willys MB frame has a steel tube or pipe type member in this location. I couldn't use this since a previous owner had welded on a straight cross member.
b. Another detail to check is the machine gun mount. In the center of either frame, mounted to a crossmember behind the transmission, is a large, roughly circular plate with four holes drilled in it . This is the machine gun pedestal mount. Only WWII jeeps have this feature, and all WWII MB/GPW jeeps were equipped with this plate. The plate for a Ford is oval and Willys has a round one. BINGO! Even though a previous owner had chopped it up to fit a CJ-2 tub, you can still see it is round..
Here are some pics from when I first brought it home:
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Now that I have the engine, I've been getting slowly getting the parts together. For those that have read the entire thread, you'll remember that Bubba had installed a Studebaker engine in the Willys. He had to yank everything out of the engine compartment to get it in there so I'm having to put this engine together from scratch. I don't have everything I need so I'm buying parts when I can.
I've set come pieces in place to test the fitment but today I actually started installing. I have installed the intake and exhaust manifold assembly and I've installed the heat riser assembly into the exhaust. I didn't have an original carburetor to have it rebuilt and I don't have the big bucks to buy and original one especially since I'd still have the expense of rebuilding it. However, there is a company (in China I think) that bought the rights to the Carter WO carburetor and started producing them last year so I bought one. I've installed on the intake manifold but will work on the linkage and fuel lines later.
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I've set come pieces in place to test the fitment but today I actually started installing. I have installed the intake and exhaust manifold assembly and I've installed the heat riser assembly into the exhaust. I didn't have an original carburetor to have it rebuilt and I don't have the big bucks to buy and original one especially since I'd still have the expense of rebuilding it. However, there is a company (in China I think) that bought the rights to the Carter WO carburetor and started producing them last year so I bought one. I've installed on the intake manifold but will work on the linkage and fuel lines later.
Wow, what a year! Been crazy busy and between work, Covid-19 and family stuff, I haven't had any time to work on this. I finally got around to posting the Studebaker engine on Craig's List. I posted before removing so folks would have the opportunity to see it running before next week when I planned on pulling it out.
Well, after the obligatory scam emails, I received a couple of legitimate ones. The first guy came over, watched it run, asked a few questions and said he'd buy it (I think my asking price was too low - lol). He picked it up today.
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I'll be spending the next couple of weeks chopping away things welded in place for the old engine and welding new brackets in place. Now the fun begins.
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Well, after the obligatory scam emails, I received a couple of legitimate ones. The first guy came over, watched it run, asked a few questions and said he'd buy it (I think my asking price was too low - lol). He picked it up today.
I'll be spending the next couple of weeks chopping away things welded in place for the old engine and welding new brackets in place. Now the fun begins.
Happy New Year all!
After chopping off some half removed pieces and rivets, I bolted in the new engine mounts. Also, because my welder crapped out on me so I took it over to my brother's house yesterday to weld the new cross member. The cross member is not super important structurally on my rig because of how much Bubba beefed up the frame and bumper but it's still important since the grill and radiator bolt to it.
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My brother, like me is an armature welder and he is also a perfectionist (also like me but more so). He apologized over and over for what he called a "crappy job". I think it came out pretty well, especially with the welds left by Bubba on the frame itself.
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After chopping off some half removed pieces and rivets, I bolted in the new engine mounts. Also, because my welder crapped out on me so I took it over to my brother's house yesterday to weld the new cross member. The cross member is not super important structurally on my rig because of how much Bubba beefed up the frame and bumper but it's still important since the grill and radiator bolt to it.
My brother, like me is an armature welder and he is also a perfectionist (also like me but more so). He apologized over and over for what he called a "crappy job". I think it came out pretty well, especially with the welds left by Bubba on the frame itself.
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