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I bought a 2004 TJ. I live in Sunnyvale, CA. The front seat in the car is tilted. A lot. It's tilted so that if you placed a tennis ball on the seat, it would roll out of the door. Sitting in that Jeep is literally like sitting in a chair where the legs on your right side are longer than those on the left. Great on the back. Not.

So, I reported it to the dealer as a warranty issue.

Listen. I'm dead serious -- I swear it -- here's what the service manager told me:

"I talked to Chrysler about your seat and they said that the seats in the Wrangler are intentionally tilted toward the doors. Jeep made them that way because the car is used off road. If you were to get into a difficult position, they don't want to make it hard for you to get out of the car. The seats are intentionally tilted to help you to get out."

This is my first Jeep and I love the car. Always wanted one going back to CJ days. Can anyone tell me if this statement is factual? My gut reaction and common sense tell me that this a stunning example of a lie that could void the warranty of a lie detector machine, but I seek the wisdon of this forum to confirm it. I could be wrong.

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Honestly, most people that work at jeep (atleast the phone opperators) don't know shit..... We had a guy that wasnt able to tell us the gear ratio and ring and pinion size on a stock 97 TJ, he could tell us the part number, but not what we needed, It was the biggest waste of an hour on the phone ever.

But then I posted the question up here and it was answer correctly within 5 mins of me posting it up.

Take a pic of the seats and post them up...
 

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The car is currently at the dealership, but I will post pics when I get it. BTW, the left side of the seat is about 1-2 inches lower than the right side.
 

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We have an 04, and I have not noticed any tilting of the seat. It sits perfectly level with the floor. Check your seat frames, where they bolt to the floor, and see if someone shimmed them that way. Sounds like some personal fabbing to me. I am guessing that you bought your Jeep used????
 

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Sounds like BS to me. My seat leans a little bit toward the door (not much at all) but it's because the cushion is showing some wear. I'm sure it wasn't made that way or people would be falling out of the d*mn things.
 

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sounds like BS to me also. I have a 04 and my seats are not like that.
 

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My '03 sahara seats are staright with the floor. Unless that was an upgrade on the '04 models i think i am gonna have to play the BS card as well
 

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You folks are great. I must say I was in awe of the service manager telling me tilting the seat helps driver to get out of the car in case there's a rollover. He said it with so much conviction and force that for a brief second I almost believed it.

But then it occurred to me - in a rollover, you're upside down, or sideways -- what the hell difference does the damn seat angle matter?!

And why would dropping the seat on one side matter a hill of beans toward getting out?

This dealer really makes me nervous. Anyone who would say something like that is either incompetant or dishonest.
 

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Sounds like BS to me. My seat leans a little bit toward the door (not much at all) but it's because the cushion is showing some wear. I'm sure it wasn't made that way or people would be falling out of the d*mn things.
I'm visualizing Wrangler owners "falling out of the d*am things"
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
 

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I'm visualizing Wrangler owners "falling out of the d*am things"
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Ha! Some of the stuff these "Service Managers" tell their customers just cracks me up. They should really think twice about what they're telling these customers. But then again, that's why the lawyers live in those big ol' houses. :D

Siggie - I want to add another BS just for grins. You should print this thread off and take it to the Service Manager. Make sure he knows that I think he's a moron. :D
 

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Yup, another big ol' "BS!" from me, too.
 

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I'm visualizing Wrangler owners "falling out of the d*am things"
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
LOL, I can just imagine it now. Crawl'n through the mall parking lot on a hot summer day, doors and top off, hit a speed bump, and then "d*am it, I fell out of the jeep again"
 

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Ha! Some of the stuff these "Service Managers" tell their customers just cracks me up. They should really think twice about what they're telling these customers. But then again, that's why the lawyers live in those big ol' houses. :D

Siggie - I want to add another BS just for grins. You should print this thread off and take it to the Service Manager. Make sure he knows that I think he's a moron. :D
Oh God -- I'm at work laughing out loud!
 

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LOL, I can just imagine it now. Crawl'n through the mall parking lot on a hot summer day, doors and top off, hit a speed bump, and then "d*am it, I fell out of the jeep again"
Oh **** -- you folks are going to get me fired! This is so funny! Or how about this -- the lawyer calls a jeep owner to the stand to testify how Jeep negligently installed level seats preventing them from exiting the car - causing them to be burned in the ensuing fireball!

Here's the serious part -- that service manager HAS MY JEEP right now and he's dead serious.
 

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Here's the serious part -- that service manager HAS MY JEEP right now and he's dead serious.
That's kinda scary. You will be going to pick it up today, right?
 
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