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In doing a wheel and tire swap from my 2013 to the 2016 Wrangler, the Jeep dealer tells me the TPMS in my 2013 wheels/tires won't work with the 2016 Wrangler. They say Jeep changes the TPMS every year.

Is this true? If so, it sucks for those who want to bring their tires and wheels with them from the trade-in to the new Jeep. They're quoting me well over $500 to install new TPMS in the tires.

So, I'm wondering if there are other (less costly than Jeep dealer) sources to get new TPMS sensors put in my tires that will work with the 2016 Wrangler.
 

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That sounds borderline retarded, and highly unlikely that a manufacturer would spend the time and resources to change something like that during the production of a product family.

Tell them not to worry about it, and that you don't care about the TPMS, and just move the wheel/tire combo over yourself. I'm 99.999% certain it will work perfectly. Also, $500 for TPMS is robbery.
 

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Yep... I told them just that... don't change anything. They said I'll get a warning on the Wrangler instrument panel telling me something to the effect that the tire inflation is wrong.

I will know for sure when I pick the Jeep up later today or tomorrow.
 

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..., the Jeep dealer tells me the TPMS in my 2013 wheels/tires won't work with the 2016 Wrangler. They say Jeep changes the TPMS every year.

Is this true?
For the JK Wrangler, the TPMS changed only once.

The 2008 to 2012 are compatible. The 2013 to 2016+ are compatible.

Now, after you change to a different set of wheels, or rotate around the ones you already got, you have to drive up to 7 miles for the TPMS sensors to register with the vehicle.
 

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They said I'll get a warning on the Wrangler instrument panel telling me something to the effect that the tire inflation is wrong.
That's something different. The TPMS sensors are working, but the tire inflation is wrong.

Different tires require different air pressures. The TPMS system in your Wrangler is programmed for the air pressure required by the tires installed at the factory. If you change tires, and those tires need a higher or lower air pressure that the originals ones, you need to have your Wrangler reprogrammed for the new air pressure value.
 

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That's something different. The TPMS sensors are working, but the tire inflation is wrong.

Different tires require different air pressures. The TPMS system in your Wrangler is programmed for the air pressure required by the tires installed at the factory. If you change tires, and those tires need a higher or lower air pressure that the originals ones, you need to have your Wrangler reprogrammed for the new air pressure value.
That is a great point that you make. Did any of you use this thing?

Superchips - FlashCal for 2007-2015 JK | 4WheelParts.com
 

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We are planning on putting new tires and wheels and I found this on a website. If it does what it says it is worthy
 

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A $500 price quote is a complete scam by the dealer to install 5 TPMS sensors. 13 sensors will work on a 16. It can take awhile to synch and you would have to adjust the air pressure to match the recommended pressure listed on the door jamb placard on the JK the tires/sensors are being installed on in order to not get the TPMS warning light. A programmer can change that if you prefer to run lower pressure. The sensor frequencies are not changed every year. A lot of mis information by the dealer.
 

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Oh man, yes. Airpark Jeep in Scottsdale lied to me and tried to scam me by $500 to $700. I'm SO glad I told them to leave things alone.

Now that I have the Jeep back with 35" tires on it...


...the actual pressure of the tires is most certainly showing up on the read-out, no problem. The only issue is that the TPMS warning light is on.

And THANK YOU guys for letting me know that the light just needs to be re-programmed. I think Discount Tire can do that for me. Possibly for free.

The dealership told me that they would either have to install new sensors on all 5 tires at $100+ per sensor, plus 3 hours labor. OR move the old sensors to the new tires which would involve an element of risk breaking one or more of them, and 5 or so hours of labor.

What a SCAM! Airpark Jeep in Scottsdale is NOT to be trusted!

My next step will be to visit Discount Tire in Scottsdale (their home office!) to ask about re-programming the Jeep.
 

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I wouldn't hold my breath on anyone reprogramming your Jeep for free.
 

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I wouldn't hold my breath on anyone reprogramming your Jeep for free.
When Discount Tires balanced my tires they re-programmed it. No mention of any charge for that. In any event, I'm sure it would be a little less than $500-$700. :jaw drop:

What is involved in the re-program? Would my AEV ProCal do the job? Surely, this can't be much of a big deal, can it?
 

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An AEV Procal can change the TPMS threshold or it can disable TPMS (set to 0). Check the reference guide that was provided with it or on-line.
 

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When I put my Old School wheels and Goodyear Silent Armour tires from my 2012 Wrangler onto my 2016 Wrangler I bougt five new sensors on Amazon for $67.95.

Robot Check

Discount Tire, where I originally bought the wheels and tires, charged me $40 to install them for a total of $107.95

Everything works just fine.

This is when they were on the 2012.

 

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When Discount Tires balanced my tires they re-programmed it. No mention of any charge for that. In any event, I'm sure it would be a little less than $500-$700. :jaw drop:

What is involved in the re-program? Would my AEV ProCal do the job? Surely, this can't be much of a big deal, can it?
They "re-programmed" it by reading your door jam and airing the tires up to that pressure.

Buy a Pro-Cal. Quick and simple.
 

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They "re-programmed" it by reading your door jam and airing the tires up to that pressure.
Nope... the pressure warning light was coming on because my tires were anything but what the door jam sticker wanted. The Jeep wasn't happy with the pressure I wanted to run in the tires. Discount Tire did something to the Jeep that made it settle down and be happy with the 28 lbs. I want to run in my 35" Trail Grapplers.

Buy a Pro-Cal. Quick and simple.
Got it. Will see what I can do with it.
 

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I just swapped out my Rubi HR BFG M/T with a set of take offs from a 2014 Sport for winter (if it ever arrives) and I drove about 2 miles and it reset to the new tires.

I learned about this from WF. I really enjoy how informative this site is, heck, folks here know A LOT more that the dealerships do about Jeeps. I check here before going anywhere else to make mods....
 

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I just swapped out my Rubi HR BFG M/T with a set of take offs from a 2014 Sport for winter (if it ever arrives) and I drove about 2 miles and it reset to the new tires.

I learned about this from WF. I really enjoy how informative this site is, heck, folks here know A LOT more that the dealerships do about Jeeps. I check here before going anywhere else to make mods....
Yes. It's a shame that dealerships are either uninformed about their products or, worse yet, fail to properly inform customers of options, such that the customer believes they must spend a lot of money to achieve what is really a very simple, inexpensive solution.

The shared knowledge on this forum is fantastic. And a big thank you from me to those who contribute here.
 

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That's something different. The TPMS sensors are working, but the tire inflation is wrong.

Different tires require different air pressures. The TPMS system in your Wrangler is programmed for the air pressure required by the tires installed at the factory. If you change tires, and those tires need a higher or lower air pressure that the originals ones, you need to have your Wrangler reprogrammed for the new air pressure value.
correct. my 10A is programmed to sound off at 36 psi...

the requirement is 43 psi.

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