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Hey guys, I have never traded in a vehicle before, so any advice would be appreciated. I have decided to trade my 2012 sahara for a 2014 rubi. It just makes financial sense to me, and it's something I should have done from the start. For me to regear, add lockers, a PR44, etc to my rig would obliterate the cost difference of a trade in, so Im going to do it right this time.

First question, what would be a fair trade in value (what I should Aim for) for my rig

2012 JKU Sahara
Crush
Leather
Side Air Bags
730N
Heated Seats
Remote Start
Uconnect
Hardtop only.
23500 miles
No accidents, no scratches...mint condition.

Also, does anyone know when the 2014 ordering will open up?

Thanks for any and all advice.
 

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I always check kelley blue book and go to the library to get the NADA guide. NADA is the National Automobile Dealers Association and the publication they offer is what most people call the blue book.

KBB will have different trade in values based on condition of the vehicle. It will also be based on private party vs. trade in. Don't try to get private part from the dealer. They need to resell it to make money themselves or they won't take it on a trade.

NADA will have Loan, Wholesale and Retail. Loan is the most the bank will loan against the vehicle. Wholesale is what you would get for trade in and retail is what you or the dealer would sell it for.

Hopefully you are a member of tread lightly which means you get the new vehicle at a great price with no haggling. You only need to determine your trade value. If you are just going to haggle, lock down the new vehicle price before you talk trade in. I usually tell the dealer up front I am trading in as before I ever get to a dealer I know what the cash out of pocket should be based on what I want to pay for the new vehicle and what I want in trade. I'll happily pay ten grand over MSRP if they give me 13k more for my trade. That is where the games begin.

I am trying to trade my 2011 Mustang in on a new Rubi right now. There is a black one perfectly equipped for me but I am not sure about the color. White and I'd jump all over it. Then again I have never had a black car and a change would be nice.

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Check to KBB, NADA, and Edmunds, along with a written quote from CarMax,
 

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I always check kelley blue book and go to the library to get the NADA guide. NADA is the National Automobile Dealers Association and the publication they offer is what most people call the blue book.

KBB will have different trade in values based on condition of the vehicle. It will also be based on private party vs. trade in. Don't try to get private part from the dealer. They need to resell it to make money themselves or they won't take it on a trade.

NADA will have Loan, Wholesale and Retail. Loan is the most the bank will loan against the vehicle. Wholesale is what you would get for trade in and retail is what you or the dealer would sell it for.

Hopefully you are a member of tread lightly which means you get the new vehicle at a great price with no haggling. You only need to determine your trade value. If you are just going to haggle, lock down the new vehicle price before you talk trade in. I usually tell the dealer up front I am trading in as before I ever get to a dealer I know what the cash out of pocket should be based on what I want to pay for the new vehicle and what I want in trade. I'll happily pay ten grand over MSRP if they give me 13k more for my trade. That is where the games begin.

I am trying to trade my 2011 Mustang in on a new Rubi right now. There is a black one perfectly equipped for me but I am not sure about the color. White and I'd jump all over it. Then again I have never had a black car and a change would be nice.

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I am a member of TL, but even when I got the current rig, I got a better price than TL offers...which is 1% below. Hell, truecar will do 2% right off the bat. Im shooting for 4% below invoice for the new rig, but I need to make sure I get a good trade in price on my current rig.

KBB.com is telling me that my rig in excellent condition is worth $30,122. Is this a realistic number to want?
 

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Well I just placed an order this afternoon for a 2014 JKU Sport. 2% under invoice and got above clean trade on my vehicle I traded in.

I think it's all about finding a dealer that wants to sell, they are small, local and beat everyone else by $1500. When I spoke with the manager he said he knew I was a real sale and he could have the deal done in less than an hour to help this months numbers.
 

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You should try and sell it privately. Both you and the potential buyer will get a better deal than what you would get through a dealer. Both sides win. Besides, with the cash you have from the sale, you will have a lot more bargaining power with your 2014 purchase.
 

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I am a member of TL, but even when I got the current rig, I got a better price than TL offers...which is 1% below. Hell, truecar will do 2% right off the bat. Im shooting for 4% below invoice for the new rig, but I need to make sure I get a good trade in price on my current rig.

KBB.com is telling me that my rig in excellent condition is worth $30,122. Is this a realistic number to want?

Tread Lightly/Affiliate pricing STARTS at nothing greater than 1% below invoice....meaning you can't be charged more than 1% below invoice. Chrysler actually rebates the dealer 2% of invoice when the program is used, which is why it is so many people end up at -2% to -4% below invoice when they use the Affiliate discount. It is good for both the buyer and the seller.
 

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You should try and sell it privately. Both you and the potential buyer will get a better deal than what you would get through a dealer. Both sides win. Besides, with the cash you have from the sale, you will have a lot more bargaining power with your 2014 purchase.
if you sell privately, you lose out on tax credit. at least thats how it works here in Louisiana.
 

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if you sell privately, you lose out on tax credit. at least thats how it works here in Louisiana.
Maybe if you sell it for what its worth trade-in. Its worth around 3k more retail.
 

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You should try and sell it privately. Both you and the potential buyer will get a better deal than what you would get through a dealer. Both sides win. Besides, with the cash you have from the sale, you will have a lot more bargaining power with your 2014 purchase.
I agree that you normally get more when you sell privately.....but this is a tough situation.

If I'm buyer, I know I would get a better interest rate and a full warranty, and a clean car history if I buy new...especially if we are talking 3-4% below invoice. It would have to be a heck of a deal to make me go used.

If I'm the seller, I'm not sure if I want to wait on a private buyer to come up with $30,000 for a used vehicle. And depending on the state, the trade-in offset on the sales tax could be massive, and would offset any extra money made on a private sale.
 

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I'm trying to avoid private sale. I need a vehicle for ferrying my daughter around so I can't have a break in vehicles. Also took me nearly 3 months and a lot of hassle to privately sell my old Acura. Really would be ideal to trade this one, order a new one and drive mine in and pull off in the new one when it arrives.

Question, what happens to all the taxes I paid on the current Jeep? I financed it with $16000 down.
 

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you eat the taxes but you don't pay taxes on the trade diff. so say your new vehicle is 40K and you have to borrow 20K then you only pay tax on 20K.
 

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I traded in a '12 Rubi two door for a '13 four door, had 20k miles on it at the time. I got back 3,000 less than what I paid for the 2 door and got the '13 at USAA prices. Just ballparking but assuming you got a decent deal on your '12 and you can trade it in for between 4k and 5k less than what you paid for it, I think you did ok.
 

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I'm trying to avoid private sale. I need a vehicle for ferrying my daughter around so I can't have a break in vehicles. Also took me nearly 3 months and a lot of hassle to privately sell my old Acura. Really would be ideal to trade this one, order a new one and drive mine in and pull off in the new one when it arrives.

Question, what happens to all the taxes I paid on the current Jeep? I financed it with $16000 down.
Your best bet is a trade-in.....especially if you get a good dealer that won't hassle you too much on the miles.

When I ordered my Wrangler, I got the trade-in amount on my Libby from the dealer. They basically not to put a bunch of miles on it (or wreck it)....and that was it. I kept my Libby until I drove it to the dealer to pick up my Wrangler a month later. The tax credit on a high value trade-in is really nice. If taxes are 7.5%, and you get $20G for your trade-in...it is like selling it privately for $21.5G....only without the hassle.
 

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I traded in a '12 Rubi two door for a '13 four door, had 20k miles on it at the time. I got back 3,000 less than what I paid for the 2 door and got the '13 at USAA prices. Just ballparking but assuming you got a decent deal on your '12 and you can trade it in for between 4k and 5k less than what you paid for it, I think you did ok.
I remember you were from Spokane what dealer did you go thru? I am trying to trade my unlimited sport on a rubi.
 

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I'm trying to avoid private sale. I need a vehicle for ferrying my daughter around so I can't have a break in vehicles. Also took me nearly 3 months and a lot of hassle to privately sell my old Acura. Really would be ideal to trade this one, order a new one and drive mine in and pull off in the new one when it arrives.

Question, what happens to all the taxes I paid on the current Jeep? I financed it with $16000 down.
What other forums are you on? I know your avatar/handle from somewhere. I had an Acura and used to get on Acura-zine or something like that. I'm also a mod on several other forums... just curious.
 

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I remember you were from Spokane what dealer did you go thru? I am trying to trade my unlimited sport on a rubi.
I got the '12 from Dave Smith and traded it in at Barton up on the north side. They were actually pretty easy to deal with, some of their reviews weren't great but I thought I got a pretty sweet deal. We had it all worked out by email, guy there named John Berger.
 

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What other forums are you on? I know your avatar/handle from somewhere. I had an Acura and used to get on Acura-zine or something like that. I'm also a mod on several other forums... just curious.
You know me from s2ki. A better question would be what forums I'm NOT on lol.
 
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