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Upgrade 35" tires, need to lift on 2013 2DR Rubicon?

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Hi all,

I'm new to this forum but long time Jeep owner. I would like to upgrade to 35" tires (currently have 255/17R17) on my 2013 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon.

Is it possible to put larger tires on my Jeep without having to lift the Jeep?
What about re-gearing?

All suggestions/recommendations welcomed and appreciated.

-Clounder
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Your Rubicon came either with 3.73 or 4.10 gears. 35's probably should be regeared to to 4.56 or 4.88 but if you have 4.10's you will be OK. 3.73 gears are marginal but many live with them.

A Rubicon sits a bit higher stock so you may be OK without a lift. You may have to do some slight fender trimming.
From what I have read it depends on the type of driving (i.e. primarily pavement, gravel/forest service roads, etc) you are planning to do and your Jeep's current configuration. It depends a bit on the width of the tires (35x10.5 vs 35x12.5) where the narrower tires are less prone to rubbing and on the actual diameter of the tire as some 35's are closer to 34". I have seen at least one youtube video (look for old jarhead) of 35's on a 2013 2dr. He had some rubbing on the factory fenders when hitting bumps/off roading. Most of the rubbing appears to be at the top of the shock front tower (at wheel lock), fenders, and fender pinch seam. If you dont want to lift, you could put on flat fenders and/or possibly wheel spacers to limit the rubbing. A lower cost alternative to a full lift would be a budget lift but there are trade offs. Typically, the recommendation is a 2 1/2" lift is required to run 35's on most JKs. As @cranbiz mentioned, you should consider gearing when going to larger tires especially if towing or driving through mountains, at higher elevations or areas with a lot of steep long grades.
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35s would rub a lot in flex might even knock a fender loose. 35x12.5 will need changes to back space on the wheels or buy new ones. its about the stock fenders and they need Bump stop.

people do 2.5 lifts and add bump stop and CUT the stock fenders. Or go 3.5 lift keep stock fenders and with about 3" bumps the stock fenders are ok.

I would not set up something that will only work on flat roads.

Cost for this and 3.73 gear will be slow. If it has 4.1 and it was option on the auto rubi separate from max tow, max tow is still 3.73.

4.1 and 35s on a two door is not bad livable. Cost to gear not worth 4.56 and 4.88 would be on the high end for 35s. You can run 37s on 4.88-5.13 street These are always Street. Off road you have a 4:1 low that could roll 37s with 3.73.............Cost of looking cool on street is high today.
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You can run 285/70/17's, with out a lift. You will have to trim your air dam. You will also need different wheels, with 5.2 to 4.5 Back Spacing, OR wheel 1.5' wheel adapters, better known as spacers.

I also have a 2013 2 door JKR. The PIC's below, is what it looks like with that size tires on it:

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I’ve got a 2013JKU with 33’s

That’s about as big as I could fit without a lift
Is it possible to put larger tires on my Jeep without having to lift the Jeep?

- Yes: 285/70R17 or 285/75R16 (your choice of wheel, both 33") are as big as you can go with no lift - but you'll likely have a little rub at max turn

What about re-gearing?

- As long as you have 3.73 or up...no need to re-gear on 33" tires. If you go to 35's, you will likely eventually want to re-gear. This 100% depends on how you drive your jeep, type of 4 wheeling you do (if any) and the terrain where you live. I drove 3.73's with 35's for quite a while, pretty good off-roading also, and it was acceptable. On 4.56's now and wish I did 4.88's.

I'll tell you that a 2 door Rubicon on 33's is a pretty formidable force on about any trail in the country. Careful wheel placement and periodic recovery...it's an awesome vehicle.
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Here’s what’s 33’s on stock suspension look like
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Here’s what’s 33’s on stock suspension look like View attachment 4582649
Love the look of your tire setup. They look like Nitto Ridge Grapplers from what I can zoom in on. How loud are they for everyday pavement driving?
Hi all,

I'm new to this forum but long time Jeep owner. I would like to upgrade to 35" tires (currently have 255/17R17) on my 2013 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon.

Is it possible to put larger tires on my Jeep without having to lift the Jeep?
What about re-gearing?

All suggestions/recommendations welcomed and appreciated.

-Clounder
You can put put bigger tires on, but you will have to change out the fenders. Is there a reason for not wanting a lift? I have the AEV 2” lift on my JKR and I run 35’s. I am still using my stock 3.73 gears. Having the Rubicon transfer case helps when off road. On road is so-so, it just doesn’t have the performance of a sports car. I do have the automatic transmission so it downshifts on the steeper hills. Ultimately 4.88 gears would be optimal for street performance.
I have a 2016 2 door Rubicon HR 3:10 stock gears, 6 SPD manual. it had a 2" Rubicon Express Lift and 35's, no problems. Now 37's and 4" lift. Same gears. No problems plenty of power
Added K&N filter kit and Hurst exhaust, helps tremendously.
Love the look of your tire setup. They look like Nitto Ridge Grapplers from what I can zoom in on. How loud are they for everyday pavement driving?
Not as loud as my exhaust 😜
I just did this, this weekend on a 2015 jru Rubi. No lift, but I did pull the air dam, and put on tube fenders. Also picked up some great used wheels that fixed the backspacing.

I'm @ 3.73 on the gears... probably next thing on my list to upgrade. Time will tell how well it does - but as others mentioned, yes possible, with some other (non lift) modifications.
As you can see from all the responses there are many ways you can go. 35s without a lift can be accomplished with fender swap to flat fenders or trimming your factory flares into flat fenders, but if you wheel it will rub A LOT. Also, I’m not sure if the Rubicons trim the pinch seam from the factory in 2013 or this was just a 10A thing. As to gearing, odds are you are 3.73 unless the PO ordered it with 4.10. It is my experience that most auto rubicons are 3.73, but you may have gotten lucky.

If cost is a factor you could do the following:
  • Leveling Kit
  • Trim factory flares
  • Add longer bump stops
  • Run 35x10.50x17 pizza cutters
  • In-board your rear sway bar links.
  • Remove the front brake hose bracket to free up the brake hose
  • Add rear brake line drop brackets to the rear hard lines to account for the added droop there.

Most of the above is you doing work with minimal items to purchase.

A simple, but expensive approach, is lift it 2.5” and get new wheels with proper offset. You can save here, by doing the lift yourself.

Everything is a trade-off, and everyone makes different decisions to get there.

Enjoy your Jeep and remember a Rubicon off the show-room floor is very capable. It is never a bad thing to learn to wheel in a stock Jeep; it teaches you how to pick a line and tire placement. These skills serve you will no matter how big your tires are.

Good luck.
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