[BManz]

I'm going to buy a JK Wrangler for work use, no question. But, still on the fence about going with a used/new 2012 or 2013 Wrangler because of the Pentastar head issue and I can save $6k out-the-door vs new if I go 2011. I don't need power (not towing) but really want the new interior hence the 2011.

So, at a down-south dealer I found a great-condition 2011 JK 2dr S-package, dual tops, 4spd auto with 14,000 miles for $20,900. It's at a foreign car dealer (not telling what state) and that's their cash price to get it off the lot (beyond 100 days and because the hard top has a leak that wets the front floor on both sides).

I think the price is good -- they know new Wranglers are hot with the 3.6, but is it worth it to go with a 2011 to save that $6k? For those who traded up from 2011 are there any regrets? It's still under 3/36 warranty so I could seek a dealer about the leak or fix it myself, no worries. I'm wondering if I haven't thought about all the angles of 2011 vs 2012/2013. Thanks for any "think about this" kind of feedback.

P.S. Yes I've driven 2011s, 2012s and 2013s both auto and manual. No different feel for the way I drive.

 

[positrak]

brand new '12 auto regular sport

$21,300 without even negotiating.

sorry you can't differentiate between the 285 hp engine vs old 202hp and new 5 speed.

But the number above suggests that dealer's price isn't very good imo.


Cars for Sale: 2012 Jeep Wrangler Sport in Clarksville, MD 21029: Sport Utility Details - 323511574 - AutoTrader.com

 

[BManz]

brand new '12 auto regular sport

$21,300 without even negotiating.

Thanks, that's a soft top with no options and I can get that deal on a bare bones Wrangler in Chicago too. I'm looking for auto, both tops, S-pkg, power pkg (windows/mirror) which go for about $26,700 discounted and that's if I can even find dual tops on the lot.

 

[BManz]

Here's what I'm looking for in a 2013, equipped identically to the 2011 I just found while on business: New Jeep Wrangler, Schaumburg, IL, SUV, Zeigler Chrysler Dodge Jeep of Schaumburg Stock: 130281 Chicago, Elgin, and Skokie Area

What I'm saying is the 2011 is the same as this 2013, without connectivity but with the old 3.8 and 4spd. The work duty is for commuting and visiting unimproved property (i.e. off pavement) on a regular basis and will be also used for fun and for teaching a teen how to drive.

 

[positrak]

auto with a/c actually:

http://tinyurl.com/c9pry3x

the idea here is to work backwards, plug in a used 2012 with the options you desire with the same milage as the 2011 and see what is available etc.

New Cars, Used Cars - Find Cars at AutoTrader.com

 

[positrak]

Here's the 2012 data, models, all options, both invoice and list prices:

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/2012-wrangler-information-thread-101089.html

build up or cost out what you are interested in figger on 2% below the total invoice price and then expect much more on negotiations. You're timing is perfect end of the year and lots of '12's anxiously seeking new homes. If you want to juggle prices, work on used wiht 'x' milage based on what can be found on autotrader / other etc.

You can be sure that that non-jeep dealer has plenty of room in there. Ignore their understanding or what they say about Jeeps and the new 3.6.

Pretty sure with some effort you can get to you're required price along with required options either new or used with the 3.6 and new transmission. Forfeit some options if necessary, you cannot beat the new engine and transmission.

 

[positrak]

you can even do this

25,000 = 21,000 as in that dealer's offer really = 20,000 on sit down

therefore

27,000 = 23,000 = 22,000 on sit down

brand new if you find the right dealer.

You're after a 2011, with 15,000 miles for 20,000.

 

[positrak]

You're in Chicago?

Pat's your man, he'll sort you out properly, ping him!

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/2013-wrangler-information-thread-161113-260.html#post2963312

 

[BManz]

auto with a/c actually:

http://tinyurl.com/c9pry3x
the idea here is to work backwards, plug in a used 2012 with the options you desire with the same milage as the 2011 and see what is available etc.
New Cars, Used Cars - Find Cars at AutoTrader.com

:9lame:Really? Sorry, You think I haven't been there? Nothing available used/new under even $25,000 with a loaded option set -- that's the whole point of my query here. Is the $6000+ savings (plus the $$$$ tax savings) a reasonable amount to skip on buying a 2013 with the Penta + 5spd? What may I be overlooking? Keep in mind I've researched JKs for the past year or more.

 

[BManz]

You're in Chicago?

Pat's your man, he'll sort you out properly, ping him!

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/2013-wrangler-information-thread-161113-260.html#post2963312

Look at my posted link. Pat can't touch price. Sorry. Been there too. Please don't respond with sale links. That's not my question. Your answer is fine: a loaded 2011 with low miles sucks at $20,000 $21,000. Got it thank you.

 

[positrak]

Good luck then. :thumb:

 

[cozmo2312]

i hope so cause i just picked up a 2011 rubicon with 7k miles to go with our 2012 sport, lol.

it's got the 6speed and even at 4k feet altitude it's miles better than my 4banger tacoma that i got rid of.

 

[BManz]

you can even do this

25,000 = 21,000 as in that dealer's offer really = 20,000 on sit down

therefore

27,000 = 23,000 = 22,000 on sit down

brand new if you find the right dealer.

You're after a loaded 2011, with 15,000 miles for 20,000.

(fixed it for you)
LOL. You get me an $29,000+ MSRP 2013 JK Sport 2dr for $22,000 and I'll pay you to do the deal. It. Isn't. Happening. I'll even bet David Axelrod's mustache on it.

 

[nwbronco]

If you are happy with the deal go for it. I thnk most of the folks responding are not into the packages that are available. I found on '09 for the missus, with the options and color she wanted. New ones could be found, but not even close in price doing the option to option comparison. I think we spent 3 or 4 months looking at new vs. low mileage used. I didn't really discuss it on the list. Heck, most of the guys responding would probably be half my age and not want what I want in the same order.

I bought my daughter an '04 TJ as well.

I personally would stay away from '12s and later. I've wrenched on a few and have a few friends with one. Some have had issues, others have not. If I were to buy new, I'd wait until at least '14 and hope the wrangler gets the 8spd auto.


Bob K.

 

[BManz]

Yeah nwbronco from what I've seen the past year the price looked right -- for a loaded one. The issues with the 2012s made me pause on even the 2013s given that another shoe may yet drop. I don't need "new" for my work vehicle unless the deal was unbelievable. So I might miss some street performance? Eh. That's what sports cars or my scoots-for-an-SUV Hemi Grand are for.

I felt maybe the loaded 2011 was a good find and at more than $6000 savings, plus tax savings, & felt I could use that cash for tires and a bumper/winch and save the rest for another one later after the, ahem, 2016 redesign arrives. I'm wondering what others are paying for loaded 2011s with the new interior and older powertrain (should have stated that originally). I do really dig the new interior and cannot even look inside at the 2007-2010s anymore.

 

[Farnham21]

Your 2011 is not loaded so stop calling it that. Loaded is leather heated seats connectivity 3.73 gears. The engine is junk

 

[BManz]

This is what I was looking at. In 2011 when I started looking they said leather wasn't available nor connectivity, at that time anyway, for the Sport. I was mistaken reading my handwriting it is 19,000 miles and I'm passing because I have to catch a plane:
AutoTrader.com[JEEP[WRANGLER[]][]]&featureCodes=10&doorCodes=2&modelCode1=WRANGLER&sortBy=derivedpriceASC&showcaseOwnerId=100011646&makeCode1=JEEP&startYear=2011&searchRadius=0&listingId=329966418&Log=0

 

[TexMedic]

Wait... You're talking about a used Jeep that's been sitting on a dealers lot for 100+ days with a leaking roof that has water that fills both floor boards and you're worried about issues on a brand new 2012+?

 

[travis29]

U try sherman dodge in skokie?

 

[nwbronco]

We have a loaded '11 JKU Rubicon. And yes, it's loaded. Heated leather, heated mirrors, Nav, bluetooth, remote start, auto temp. Still stock, it's the family truckster. We each have our own toys.

It is a personal thing. Opinions are what they are. And every body has one.

Bob K.