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Hello all,

It's time for a bumper/winch setup. I like what I see in Warn, I just need to choose a bumper. The Warn Elite tucks the winch in nicely, but looks like they only make them for JL's, JT's etc.

Has anyone installed a bumper made for a JK/JL/JT on a YJ or TJ? How different are the front frames on these? What kind of modifications would it take?

Thanks in advance,
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If thats the bumper, my concern would be the width vs the width of a YJ, otherwise a welder will most likely be needed for the modification ou'll need to do, probably more work than it's worth, best if you can fine a 4x4 shop with some choices in stock, so you can measure etc to get an idea how much work is actually involved. Maybe a YJ owner will chime in with one of these or offer some advice on a good substitute. Good luck!!
 

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If thats the bumper, my concern would be the width vs the width of a YJ, otherwise a welder will most likely be needed for the modification ou'll need to do, probably more work than it's worth, best if you can fine a 4x4 shop with some choices in stock, so you can measure etc to get an idea how much work is actually involved. Maybe a YJ owner will chime in with one of these or offer some advice on a good substitute. Good luck!!
My question: How different are the front frames on these? What kind of modifications would it take?

With this InterWeb thingy, I can look at a hundred different designs, vs. 3 or 4 at a local shop. I have literally looked at a 100 or more bumper setups. I like the Warn Elite, and I have my own shop, welder, drill presses, etc... just trying to understand the front frame.

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Probably get dimensions from the internet somewhere
 

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Might be able to modify your YJ frame to adapt to the bumper vs trying to modify the bumper, might be a lot easier.
Definitely start a thread on the job if you go this route
 
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This is helpful... sort of. If the dimensions of front frame are similar, I could possibly fab up some brackets. Thanks for this.

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This is helpful... sort of. If the dimensions of front frame are similar, I could possibly fab up some brackets. Thanks for this.

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No problem, like I said, difinitely start a build thread on it
 

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I think @283 YJ has made a winch mount that drops the winch out of the air flow through the grill opening. If you search his posts you might get some ideas. It might be more cost effective to have something fabricated than to buy an expensive bumper and pay to have it modified. Take some pics of what you want along with your Jeep to a welding/fabrication shop for a bid. Better to have the current bumper & winch off when you take it for a bid.

Keep us updated on what you do and what you end up with.

Good Luck, L.M.
 
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This won't likely help speedthing but here they are. That's a Warn bumper that I bought used and had powdercoated. The winch and winch plate are Harbor Freight. I had to rat tail out the winch plate mounting holes a bit to get the winch plate to bolt to my frame (so much for a "universal" fit. I also had to drill holes in the top of the bumper to accommodate the front winch bolt heads. Since the front of the winch plate sits on top of the bumper, I had to shim the back bolts so that the winch plate would sit level. I used grade 8 bolts and washers rather than the problematic torx head bolts that the factory uses.
I don't have any pics of the front of the frame without the bumper and winch if that's what you're asking about.

Good Luck, L.M.
 

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The bumper would be way to wide and look ridiculous. JK/JL are full size vehicles they are much wider than jeeps.
 

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The JK/JLframes are very likely much wider than a YJ. There would no doubt be some extensive modifications that would have to be made on the bumper and/or frame to make it fit. IMHO, it’s not worth what it would cost. Like said above, I would find someone a see how much it would cost to have something made. It may likely be cheaper to have it made verses but a warn (big $$$) and then more money to have it modified to work.
 

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This is helpful... sort of. If the dimensions of front frame are similar, I could possibly fab up some brackets. Thanks for this.

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Frames not even close except both are made from metal. Body width is 66" for yj and 74" for jk, no idea on frame but at least that different.
That said, since you have the equipment, buy one and cut the middle bit out and weld it back together. Fab some mouting plates.

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