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Hey guys, I finally got my tires ordered to go with my wheels I received back in July and anticipate there being a rubbing issue, just not sure to what degree.
My wheels are these (see pic) Vision, 17x8.5, 0 offset with a 4.75 or 4.5 back spacing. (wheels specs say 4.75 BS, but my order has them listed as 4.5 BS?)
I ordered the Milestar, Patagonias 285/70/17.
What's the minimum concentric spacer you think I'd need or would you wait and see if washers in the turn stops would be adequate after the wheels are installed?
Thanks for the feedback in advance.
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looks like those tires are ~33x11.5, which will be close with 4.5" backspacing rims although you may get away with just a washer on your steering stop.
 

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looks like those tires are ~33x11.5, which will be close with 4.5" backspacing rims although you may get away with just a washer on your steering stop.
Excuse my ignorance, but what about if the BS is 4.75 as listed by the manufacturer, I believe they made a mistake on my shipping invoice saying it was 4.5, 4.75 would be better, right?
 

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I'd send the wheels AND tires back and order wheels with less backspacing and a 15" diameter...
 

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I'd send the wheels AND tires back and order wheels with less backspacing and a 15" diameter...
And look just like you? Pass. But if you save your pennies, one day you can be as cool as me!
 

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I ran 285/75-16s one 4.5 backspace wheel. I needed a couple washers on the steering stops and it would just get the frame in front of the tire at full lock and stuffed. 4.75 would make tuck them in a little tighter which would make the problem worse.

You can get a 1" hub centric spacer that should work with cast wheels. The front studs will stick out past the surface though. Generally the backside of cast wheels aren't a solid flange but has spaces between the lugs that will work. If your flange is solid you would need wider spacers or have to change all the wheel studs on the front axle to shorter studs.
 

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Looks like sobered up and edited his string of insults a little....

I didn't attack you, I offered honest advice.... you don't have to give people permission before they can offer advice on a public forum.... you don't have to take said advice but there's no reason to show your hiney with a childish retort....
 

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Looks like sobered up and edited his string of insults a little....

I didn't attack you, I offered honest advice.... you don't have to give people permission before they can offer advice on a public forum.... you don't have to take said advice but there's no reason to show your hiney with a childish retort....
Looks like you feel like an idiot for being a smartass and trying to justify your ignorant comment.
Never asked for your "advice" on wheel/tire choices, but yet you still made a comment that made you look like an ass, you're probably used to doing that though.
 

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I ran 285/75-16s one 4.5 backspace wheel. I needed a couple washers on the steering stops and it would just get the frame in front of the tire at full lock and stuffed. 4.75 would make tuck them in a little tighter which would make the problem worse.

You can get a 1" hub centric spacer that should work with cast wheels. The front studs will stick out past the surface though. Generally the backside of cast wheels aren't a solid flange but has spaces between the lugs that will work. If your flange is solid you would need wider spacers or have to change all the wheel studs on the front axle to shorter studs.
Thanks for the useful feedback.
I think I'll wait then and try the washers and go from there.
 

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Nice wheels and I hear good things about those tires. Fitment will be close. If you need wheel spacers check out TitanwheelAcc on Ebay. Quality billet 1.25" spacers for around $80 for all four. I've used them with several of my Jeeps with 35" tires with great results. Don't buy the overpriced Spidertrax just because people tell you to. They are no better IMO.
 
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Nice wheels and I hear good things about those tires. Fitment will be close. If you need wheel spacers check out TitanwheelAcc on Ebay. Quality billet spacers for around $80 for all four. I've used them with several of my Jeeps with 35" tires with great results. Don't buy the overpriced Spidertrax just because people tell you to. They are no better IMO.
Great tip! I will, thanks for the heads up, sure beats $200 for a set of 4.
 

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Great tip! I will, thanks for the heads up, sure beats $200 for a set of 4.
Here's the link. $73.82 and free shipping for all 4. If those wheels are 4.5" backspacing they will work. The washers on the steering stops works for not hitting the lower control arms at full turn. The problem is the rear tires might rub the spring perches as the rear axle shifts offroad. I bought a Jeep with 33x12.50s with NO lift and stock wheels. Amazingly the rear didn't rub on the street. My GF drove it for a couple months before I sold it. POST PICS for ME when you get it all done. Ignore those who don't like your style. My license plate and rear window decal keep people in their place.



https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-5x114-3-...hdWurp:sc:USPSPriorityFlatRateBox!22968!US!-1
 

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Here's the link. $73.82 and free shipping for all 4. If those wheels are 4.5" backspacing they will work. The washers on the steering stops works for not hitting the lower control arms at full turn. The problem is the rear tires might rub the spring perches as the rear axle shifts offroad. I bought a Jeep with 33x12.50s with NO lift and stock wheels. Amazingly the rear didn't rub on the street. My GF drove it for a couple months before I sold it. POST PICS for ME when you get it all done. Ignore those who don't like your style. My license plate and rear window decal keep people in their place.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-5x114-3-...hdWurp:sc:USPSPriorityFlatRateBox!22968!US!-1
Thanks for the link and good to know, 285/70 are supposed to actually be 32.7x11.2 so hopefully there won't be an issue with the perches, we'll see. lol
 
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Canceled my order for Patagonias and decided to go with the BFG K-02 instead in the same size, hopefully next weekend if all comes in.
 
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I had the BFG's and wheels put on and I'm blown away with how well this thing handles now. Night and day difference and straight as an arrow, I was prepared for some trade off going larger, but the all the trade offs have been for the positive so far. No notable difference in gearing either? How is this possible? I still have 5th gear and it still gets up as fast as it ever did. I'm impressed and the difference the tires and wheels have and my Jeep is no longer "anemic" looking and looks like what a Jeep is supposed to now.
 

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I had the BFG's and wheels put on and I'm blown away with how well this thing handles now. Night and day difference and straight as an arrow, I was prepared for some trade off going larger, but the all the trade offs have been for the positive so far. No notable difference in gearing either? How is this possible? I still have 5th gear and it still gets up as fast as it ever did. I'm impressed and the difference the tires and wheels have and my Jeep is no longer "anemic" looking and looks like what a Jeep is supposed to now.
Looks great! Great choice IMO. :thumb:I always tell the "keep it stock so it handles good" people, Jeeps handle so much better with larger tires and a wider stance. Way more stability. Is that desert sand color? It looks light in the pics.
p.s. If you have 3.73 gears, most people wouldn't waste the money to regear for 33s or slightly less. 18 Jeeps later and I still wouldn't.

p.s. I drove my first Jeep a month stock. Never again. The problem with me getting 35s is that now everything else looks tiny to me. My XJ needs some 35s soon.

TJ #1. Check out the time stamp on the pics.
 

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Looks great! Great choice IMO. :thumb:I always tell the "keep it stock so it handles good" people, Jeeps handle so much better with larger tires and a wider stance. Way more stability. Is that desert sand color? It looks light in the pics.
p.s. If you have 3.73 gears, most people wouldn't waste the money to regear for 33s or slightly less. 18 Jeeps later and I still wouldn't.

p.s. I drove my first Jeep a month stock. Never again. The problem with me getting 35s is that now everything else looks tiny to me. My XJ needs some 35s soon.

TJ #1. Check out the time stamp on the pics.
No idea of gearing, but the tires I know are exactly 32.7x11.2 so apparently I got lucky on my gearing because there is zero loss of power that I can tell. It's a custom color the previous owner did and seems closer to Dune next to a stock Dune in person, depending on the light too. Thanks
ps yours look sick too, I love the setup.
 

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No idea of gearing, but the tires I know are exactly 32.7x11.2 so apparently I got lucky on my gearing because there is zero loss of power that I can tell. It's a custom color the previous owner did and seems closer to Dune next to a stock Dune in person, depending on the light too. Thanks
ps yours look sick too, I love the setup.
Check your gearing on the rear diff tag (if stock).3.07 and 3.73 are the only options for your Jeep. Great looking Jeep!:winner:
 

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Check your gearing on the rear diff tag (if stock).3.07 and 3.73 are the only options for your Jeep. Great looking Jeep!:winner:
I'll crawl under it this weekend and look. I'll definitely be leaving it stock height, I'd love to raise it, but I never leave the pavement and I'm sure that'd have an adverse effect on the little 4 banger for sure. lol
Since the deer took out my "perfect" looking front end out I spent so much time fixing up, I'm going with a smaller/lighter bumper with a small bull bar similar to yours I think, no winch but driving lights like I had on it and black grill inserts. Plastic flat top flares and definitely a different spare tire carrier.
Here's what it looked like before the eff'n deer.
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