Bueller.....Bueller?

 

You would be better off going to the Wayalife Wrangler forum for a question like this.

 

I had a similar question. I'll head over to WAYALIFE and ask there... I've already talked to Prodigy Tuning and they told me it was impossible to tune my existing ECM to run the new gen 3.6L. Time for some more research and Q/As...

 

If anyone else stumbles upon this looking for what vehicles use the same block, I may have found the answer.

According to this
https://www.moparfactoryparts.com/oem-parts/mopar-long-block-68264741aa?c=Zz1lbmdpbmUmcz1lbmdpbmUmbD04Jm49QXNzZW1ibGllcyBQYWdlJmE9amVlcCZvPXdyYW5nbGVyJnk9MjAxNyZ0PXVubGltaXRlZC1ydWJpY29uJmU9My02bC12Ni1nYXM=

The PN for the long block is 68264741AA
and the following vehicles all use the same long block

2014 Chrysler 200
2014-17 Chrysler 300
2014-16 Chrysler Town & Country
2014 Dodge Avenger
2014-19 Dodge Challenger
2014-17 Dodge Charger
2014-15 Dodge Durango
2014-19 Dodge Grand Caravan
2014-17 Dodge Journey
2014-15 Grand Cherokee
2014-18 JK Wrangler
2014-17 Ram 1500
2014-15 Ram C/V
2014-15 Promaster

Having had to swap my engine due to Prodigys lack of tuning knowlege, I wouldn't consider their answer as definitive that the PUG cant be tuned in...

Any non PUG (years listed above) engines are the same. You will need to swap timing cover components and belt driven accessories. I put a 3.6 from a 15 charger into my 17 JK and have been running it boosted (3rd party tuned) without any issues for about 6 months now.

 

Im about to do the same. 3.6 from 2015 300awd. Going into my 2017 rubicon. Any pointers or advice? The timing cover on the jeep doesnt look like it will work on the 300 motor. Maybe it will? Oil pans have already been swapped. Are the timing chains and guides and such the same in both motors?

 

Also they only changed to the PUG (with the updated VVT) in 2016 in certain models. All 3.6 JKs use the non PUG (Pentastar Upgrade) and it wasn't until 2018 when the JLs were released that they updated the Wrangler engine. I believe you can still buy a fresh non PUG engine from Chrysler for 4k-ish and there are reman options

 

And 3rdly...Im curious why this question would be better suited for Wayolife? Its a reasonable question, and this jeep forum has the largest knowledge base IMO. Now if he was looking for someone to insist he buy a product that sponsors him...than WOL would be the best choice

 

Why would anyone direct anybody to that forum?? That place and the people who run it are exactly what the jeeping community don't need. About as toxic as it gets.

 

So, as you may notice, I never did respond because if the answer was to chime in at WOL, I'd rather not ask it. Agreed on the above points.

At any rate, I've been busy with life and some time ago did pick up a 2014 3.6 with low miles to stuff in the corner of the garage for now. I'll eventually make a project of some sort out of that.

But coincidentally Gobi, I'm also running the prodigy turbo for a little over a year now. Agreed, 3rd party tuning is required. That said, I've been through 2 well respected tuners and have given up. I think few can beat it WOT and it has always run well in that regime, plus turbos are hands down the answer for FI choices at altitude (I'm at 8000ft and play higher). But part throttle accelerating has never been smooth and no one so far can iron it out. The pros have outweighed that con so far and maybe some day I'll get sick of dealing with that driveability issue but until then I'll drive it as-is with the back up in the corner.

 

I didnt realize how long ago the OP was lol... look up demigod tuning. I found him on a Pentastar FB page and he remote tuned mine. He pointed out the things that were wrong with the Prodigy canned tune (it is canned regardless of their marketing). Im extremely happy with his tune as well as how promptly he has responded to any concerns

 

Out of curiosity? Do you do alot of offroading with yours? How is your tranny temps?

 

Thanks Gobi. I'm at my wits end with throwing money at tuners only to have them fade out when they realize they can't figure it out. It's tempting to look up Demi but damn, when does the cash stop flowing. Overall though, I've learned that FCA doesn't address or contain low baro tables (high altitude) correctly and just compensate by leaning the shit out of it below a certain kpa so a tuner with that kind of knowledge to rewrite those tables is required. My last is local and understands that but just faded away (that's my hint to get lost) after multiple attempts to address that.

I have a MT so no tranny temps to share, sorry. But I will say that outside of that part throttle surging I have to tolerate, it excels everywhere else. Most of my driving is up and down passes, a ton of offroading and much of that pulling a 2000lb adventure trailer. Only starts to run hot on hot/high days going up hill if I let it hang out above 3000rpm for a while, but it would do that without the turbo anyway. No issues other than MIL codes that have to be deactivated so passing emissions is tricky.

 

Man sorry to hear all that!! I understand being gun shy about paying anyone else then. Those other tuners should have refunded atleast a portion of your payment if they weren't able to give you a satisfactory tune. I know these Pentastars are finicky to tune and you need to find someone who knows these engines specifically.