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3.6L intake manifold construction

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#1 ·
In my journey to pick up a later model JKU, I've stared at a number of these engines now and the black intake manifold / plenum has always fascinated me. And until reading another thread here, it did not fully strike me that the entire intake manifold might be made of plastic.

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Is the entire intake manifold on the 3.6 Pentastar made of plastic? I'm not yet convinced this is a problem, and only something new to me -- I'm used to seeing cast aluminum manifolds.

Anyone have to replace this yet, or have problems with it? The part online appears to be relatively inexpensive in the event of a failure, but I've never had any issues with my cast aluminum manifolds, so very curious if anyone has experienced issues with this design, or found distinct advantages to it.

I'm most concerned about plastic's tendency to crack after numerous heat/shrink cycles, especially along joints. And I am entirely open to that idea being misguided or misplaced on this implementation.
 
#2 ·
What you have pictured is the upper intake manifold. There is a lower manifold....also made out of plastic. To my knowledge there isnt any issues with the manifolds besides the bolts can strip out if overtorqued and to make sure your gasket/orings are in decent shape if you are reusing them. The newer engines (PUG or Pentastar upgrade) have better designed ports on the lower manifolds and can be swapped for a few extra HP (supposedly).
 
#4 ·
Many if not most of todays manifolds are a plastic composite, in everything from our Jeep to the Corvette. They reduce weight and don't heat soak as bad as aluminum.
 
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As stated above, plastics are used extensively in modern cars. My only concern is 'creep' of the plastic after multiple heating/cooling cycles, and the resulting loss of the clamping force generated by the fasteners.

Background:
I recently replaced my (plastic) Oil Cooler Assembly, meaning I had to R&R the Upper and Lower plastic intake manifolds. At disassembly, I noticed evidence of slight leaking at almost all of the Upper and Lower intake manifold seals. I also noticed that the fasteners didn't seem very tight.

During re-assembly I followed the factory manual for torque value and sequence and/or steps.

Now, I always go back and check my final torques. I found that the plastic Oil Cooler took 3 passes at final torque before the bolts didn't move. The Lower Intake took about 6 passes! The Upper Intake checked good after the first pass, but it is a lower torque than the rest.

After this experience, I did a little digging and found many reports on loose plastic manifold bolts on other FCA products as well as other manufacturers.