I am looking to soon purchase a JL and see the 2 different motors available. Would love to get some insight as to the pros & cons of each.
4 cylinder versus 6 cylinder
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It seems to be a mix bag.
It appears EcoDiesel makes sense if you do LOTS of highway miles. Owners love the fuel efficiency and the torque; some like the engine sound, too. However, it has a few glaring drawbacks that make it difficult to live-with as a daily driver, like significantly higher purchase and maintenance costs, the complexity of the emissions system, an ongoing string of miscellaneous issues and minor TSBs.
If he is planning to tow with it, EcoDiesel might be the way to go.
Then again, if he really wants to tow, a full-size truck might be better.
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I have to 2.0 turbo and LOVE it. It will roast the tires and get better gas mileage than the 6. It also sounds crazy between the turbo whine and diesel like sound. Did I mention the MPG?
Each their own and I imagine it’s whatever you own is the best to justify the decision but I do not see much bragging on the 6 as the other engines. Search for user saying they LOVE the 6 or is it tried and true? That’s not LOVE…
Each their own and I imagine it’s whatever you own is the best to justify the decision but I do not see much bragging on the 6 as the other engines. Search for user saying they LOVE the 6 or is it tried and true? That’s not LOVE…
I drove a lot of 2.0 Turbos as rental cars before I ordered a 2020 JLUR 3.6. A bit too jumpy for me. I do agree it has some nice power but I don't think it has the torque for towing like the diesel. 2.0 shows 255 ft lbs and the diesel is 442 ft lbs. So, for most people the decision of 2.0 turbo or 3.6 will come down to feel and MPG. I was very happy with my 3.6 until they announced the 392. So for me it is the 392. For my son in law I think the diesel Gladiator will be the ticket. The good news is that I don't think you can go wrong with any Wrangler engine choices right now. I don't know much about the 4xe but for those that like electric is sounds like it has been a hit.
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That's clever, you should be a politician. Of course, rhetorical flair is no substitute for logic. I love the V6's quicker 0-to-60 time, even though I never floor it (well, almost never
).There's nothing wrong with loving a slower car, like the turbo 4. All of my trucks are slower than my V6 wrangler, and I still love them all.
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More personal opinion is great! I’m sure you have to justify your decision! I will drop this here for you to read mr. smartie pants logic with flair for what you own! Huge difference in politics is facts or the lack of actual logic. Keep an open mind I will too. All the 0-60 times are well documented so I invite the debate where the 6 is better.That's clever, you should be a politician. Of course, rhetorical flair is no substitute for logic. I love the V6's quicker 0-to-60 time, even though I never floor it (well, almost never
There's nothing wrong with loving a slower car, like the turbo 4. All of my trucks are slower than my V6 wrangler, and I still love them all.
As for real life feel and performance, judging by the first JL Wrangler driving reviews and impressions, the 2.0L turbo 4 cylinder engine performs pretty evenly with the 3.6L V6 Pentastar. The V6 is said to be a bit more responsive and less peaky (no surprise considering the 2.0L is a turbo engine), but more than one reviewer commented on not being able to immediately tell the difference between the two engines on the road.
However, the 2.0L turbo will win in the fuel economy department. The preliminary 2.0L MPG numbers we revealed recently indicated 21 MPG city / 24 MPG highway. To compare, the V6 is quoted at 18 MPG city / 23 MPG highway.
My decision was based on no real life performance gains and a huge MPG gain. I drove both and the 6 would not easily lose traction from peak power. The 4 would all day. Short story is there’s no way the 6 would do a burn out like the turbo 4. I tested this myself. If you have other vehicle with the 2.0T it’s just that some other vehicle that’s apples to oranges. Let stick to wranglers umkay?
Just please don’t take the easy road and call me a liberal because I made your brain hurt.
don’t take me too seriously I’m totally being an ass!
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I went with a 2021 JLUR 3.6/6spd. Yes, it has ESS. Simple fix. Put a tazer on it and a dual battery kit. BAM. Mini battery gone. ESS gone. No stupid crap that will take a big ol dump 30 seconds after it is out of warranty. I test drove the 4 banger. No doubt it runs better, but if I was going to get a motor that I know will have problems down the road I would just go with the diesel. No ragerts with my stick shift 3.6. I am really enjoying it. The only automatic I own is my tow rig but I would have gotten an auto in the Jeep until I realized that it meant I had to have a mild hybrid or a turbo. Nope. Not doing it. Barely trust a naturally aspirated dino drinking Fiat much less one with a turbo or hybrid tech. Good luck, hope you get one you like.
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My JL has the ESS disabled with the Tazer and still had to replace both batteries when the time came. For two weeks the Jeep kept doing all sorts of crazy things, throwing all sorts of codes and error warnings.
Granted, I didn’t try replacing just the main battery and leaving the auxiliary battery untouched.
Granted, I didn’t try replacing just the main battery and leaving the auxiliary battery untouched.
I am so happy my 392 does not have ESS. Does the Eco Diesel have ESS?
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Not sure.
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We have the 2.0Ts, the 3.6, and 3.6 eTorque, all with the 8sp.. Frankly, they are all pretty similar in terms of power. The 2.0T does have better mileage/range. I don't care so much about mileage/cost of gas, but drive through Kansas at about 85 mph in a 3.6/2-door (with the smaller tank), and you will be stopping for gas every 3 hours.
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When was that? Mileage? Age? I just bought a 2021 and was curious what "lies ahead" ......
I have a '21 JLUR-diesel. Fantastic engine used in some BMW I think. Lots of power and great mileage even with M/T tires that cut mileage. Went to the beach yesterday, averaged 28.2 mpg even with some "spirited" driving in the mountains at up to 90 mph.
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Batteries need replacing at 3 years, rain or shine.
In my case, the Jeep had only 6,500 miles but as soon as the 3 years from manufacture hit, the batteries started giving signs that needed replacing.
THREE years? Really? Are you speaking strictly about Jeeps, or any of your vehicles in general?
I don't think I've ever had a battery last less than eight or nine years. The last two in my Dodge Ram Pickup each lasted exactly ten years (Granted, they totally farted out at that point, so let's call it nine years with a safety margin). What are you guys doing to your batteries to burn them out so fast?
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There are people with 2021s that have already been towed to the dealership for that stupid little battery. Mine will be getting a genesis battery kit within the next week or two. I've had it a couple of months and 3k miles but it's almost a year old and I take it in the hills 6-10 days a month. Every time I wonder if it is going to strand me.
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