Mom says I'm not allowed to talk to you people......

but here...
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I would probably do "A"

 

The one on the left, although I do not see why you only want to rotate 4.

 

I have to ask, why would you only rotate 4 unless you got bigger tires and only got 4.

 

Well, I'm wondering same since I put Teraflex hd carrier and thought putting tire on was huge PIA!

 

JWL, do the 5 tire rotation, really...You don't want a new spare after you drive 20,000 miles and have a flat and that spare to the mix with 3 used tires. Keep all 5 in the "rotation"

 

Nothing wrong with 4 tire rotations. It's been done for decades, especially on vehicles with donut spares.

Do a 5 tire rotation and you end up having to buy 5 tires instead of 4. A worn one (IMO) looks like a bag of crap hanging off the back of your door.

As for matching a new spare with older tires. It's not a big issue. If you're fast on the draw your spare will on for a day or 2 and then it goes back where it belongs... on the rack. Different size? Vehicles have come from the factory for decades with different sized spares (donuts).

 

Please don't misinterpret me answering (Op) your 4 tire rotation question that I in anyway condone such behavior.... 5 is the way to go but I figure you own a Jeep so you must be capable of your own decisions (even if they violate all that is just and correct) but...... Ya know

"Once you go Five .... You will always survive" (best I could do)

 

Rubicon, really? I mean REALLY, that's the best you could do? My disappointment is rampant!

"Once you go five...your tires will thrive".

OP, just do the 5 man! Take an extra 4 minutes.

 

Just rotate two. It'll save a lot of this math.

 

Just rotate one. Reduces need to remove wheel from hub. Saves time...:rofl:

 

Front and back same side.

 

Doing that will not reverse the rotation of the tires. Reversing the rotation helps even out the wear.

Nothing wrong with 4 tire rotations. It's been done for decades, especially on vehicles with donut spares.

As for matching a new spare with older tires. It's not a big issue. If you're fast on the draw your spare will on for a day or 2 and then it goes back where it belongs... on the rack. Different size? Vehicles have come from the factory for decades with different sized spares (donuts).

Last time I checked the back of my Jeeps those were full sized spares, not donuts. I don't know what "Jeeps" you have been looking at, but the Jeep Wrangers to my knowledge have never come with donut tires. The edible doughnuts, yes if used as a promotion, the tire versions no.

 

Doing Front-Rear same side without introducing a side-swap is a little like doing a 4 tire rotation and not a 5 tire. Why intentionally omit a step?

Just go whole hog and scrap rotation.

 

I just got back from the dealership service to do my oil change and 5 tire rotation. For some reason they could not tell me the prior two times how they do the 5 tire rotation pattern.

So this time, I chalked all the tires. Turns out that they didn't do a 5 tire rotation. Just did a 4 tire moving front to back and back to front (no crossing). When I pointed this out, they took it back and put the spare on the rear right.

The dealership now says that unless asked otherwise, they always go front to back, back to front, spare to rear right and rear right to spare. I suspect mine is now messed up with the original front right now on the spare rather than the rear right.

I don't find this to be a big deal right now given I only have 6800 miles on it (this is my third oil change and tire rotation; have had the Jeep for about 15 months).

So given that I have to tell them exactly how I want my tires rotated, what should I be asking for? What is the standard 5 tire rotation pattern? I definitely want them crossed, especially since I live in an area with a ton of roundabouts.

 

Keep in mind a five tire rotation ends up saving you money in the long run. You get the same "price per mile" since you spread the wear out over five tires instead of four, but you also don't end up having a brand new tire that becomes obsolete due to going to a larger size or just letting it dry rot unused. Really is no good reason not to do five... Unless of course you're the guy who only bought four new tires and wheels. Not that I've ever done that.:hide:

 

Agree with this

 

I know folks who have gotten bigger tires. They will buy 4 new tires and get a used tire of the same size from a buddy to use as a spare. There is one reason for some folks just doing the four-tire rotation.

 

I'd say that a 5 tire rotation doesn't take any more time than a 4 tire rotation.

With a 4 tire rotation, you still have to take off the spare and put in on the rear passenger side, but then when you're done, you've got to take it back off of the rear passenger side and put it back on the tire carrier.

I guess you wouldn't have to do that if you just leave the right rear on a jack stand, but who would do that?

I did 4 tire rotations on all my vehicles prior to the Jeep, but only because the spare was a different size. No reason not to do all 5 on a Jeep if the spare matches the road tires.

 

I did four tire rotations on my former JK but that was because I thought I was going to sell it before the tires needed replacing a second time.

Bought it with five new tires at 60,000 miles. Four tire rotation. Replaced those four tires at 100,000 miles and kept the spare because I thought I would be selling it in the next few years and didn't want to spend money on a spare. Continued with the four tire rotation. Stolen at 114,000 about a year and a half later and that, as they say, was that.

Ironically, when I recovered it ten days later three out of the four tires I had purchased were gone and so was that spare.

Now that I'm in it for the long haul with my new JK, it's a five tire rotation--especially since I'll be moving up to 33s so keeping an unused stock 32 inch spare would be pointless.

 

Now that I'm in it for the long haul with my new JK, it's a five tire rotation--especially since I'll be moving up to 33s so keeping an unused stock 32 inch spare would be pointless.

A 32 inch spare will work just fine with 33 inch tires.

 

Reversing the rotation helps wear away the edge of the cupping that comes so easily to aggressive tires. If I were to do a four tire rotation on my BFG MTs, it would be every 3K on the clock and full cross. That way every tire changes sides and axle and incidentally rotation. I've only got a little over 1K on my Chief, but at 3k, it's a 5 tire rotation.

 

Come on Sanders, the "donut" spares made/forced people to get the tire fixed and take the mini donut back off and replace with the repaired real tire. If someone gets a flat with 5 full size tires and gets a flat, the "spare" goes on, and the flat tire gets repaired, then that gets used as the "spare" in most cases. Most drivers won't put the repaired one back where it came from. We are all just saying, when you do the tire rotation, it keeps all five in the loop wearing the same. That way when/if you get a flat, all have even tread wear and you don't have a five year old new tread on with three worn tires (and no road wear, aka dry rot)..... Just my opinion, and honestly been driving since the 70's and never had a donut as a spare. I laugh everytime I see people doing 60 MPH on those stupid things. ( including my son appx 5 years ago) He kept driving and driving, it was hilarious! Then he hit another curb, and the car sat till it got repo'd.... Anyway Life is Good!

 

Come on Sanders, the "donut" spares made/forced people to get the tire fixed and take the mini donut back off and replace with the repaired real tire. If someone gets a flat with 5 full size tires and gets a flat, the "spare" goes on, and the flat tire gets repaired, then that gets used as the "spare" in most cases. Most drivers won't put the repaired one back where it came from. We are all just saying, when you do the tire rotation, it keeps all five in the loop wearing the same. That way when/if you get a flat, all have even tread wear and you don't have a five year old new tread on with three worn tires (and no road wear, aka dry rot)..... Just my opinion, and honestly been driving since the 70's and never had a donut as a spare. I laugh everytime I see people doing 60 MPH on those stupid things. ( including my son appx 5 years ago) He kept driving and driving, it was hilarious! Then he hit another curb, and the car sat till it got repo'd.... Anyway Life is Good!

Please show me where you are getting your statistics from so that we can be assured you're not grabbing these.... "facts" from the air

I personally don't like a heavily used tire hanging off the back of my door. It looks like a bag of crap. Now just maybe "most" other people feel that way too!

 

I wouldn't trust anyone for an oil or tire change. I do a five tire rotation on my 285/70/17 BFG KO's every 4 or 5 thousand. I've got over 55,000 and half the tread is still there.

 

[/QUOTE]LOL!
You have things ass backwards.

What exactly do you think the full sized spare on the back door is all about?? It certainly isn't function. It adds weight. It's hard on the door hinges, and it partially blocks your view. To top it all off the full sized spare is by far an outdated technology.

There are some things that will never change on a jeep... the front grille and the full size spare on the back of the jeep. These things (and others) are what makes jeep.... JEEP. In other words it's all about cosmetics.[/QUOTE]

I'm thinking your way of thinking might be a bit backwards. Not trying to flame you, but try using a can of Fix-a-Flat on a MT with a huge gash in it, 15 miles from the trailhead. Or try a doughnut. That "unfunctional, outdated" full size spare will get your ass back where you came from. A doughnut or can of Fix-a-Flat will not. Just my 2 cents though...probably 3 now due to inflation.

 

why even do tire rotations....

Joke aside, I do 5-tire rotations myself every 3K, it's a must with OEM mud tires...

 

I'm thinking your way of thinking might be a bit backwards. Not trying to flame you, but try using a can of Fix-a-Flat on a MT with a huge gash in it, 15 miles from the trailhead. Or try a doughnut. That "unfunctional, outdated" full size spare will get your ass back where you came from. A doughnut or can of Fix-a-Flat will not. Just my 2 cents though...probably 3 now due to inflation.

And what happens if you should gash your full size spare?

Any tire will get you out of trouble. It's the driver you should be blaming instead of the equipment.

 

I have no problems with carrying a full size spare on my JCR bumper/tire carrier. I have a camera if I need to see out the back. If I run into somebody on the trail with a torn up tire and no spare I will give them some water and a granola bar for the hike.

 

Even if appearance is the only reason Jeep keeps including the full sized spare, it doesn't change the fact that it is a hell of a lot better than a donut or can of fix a flat when you need it. Having found random chunks of metal the hard way more than once, I'm glad I had the full sized spare. Since I'm running it anyway, I keep it in the rotation. As for the way a used tire looks, I couldn't care less. My Jeep is almost 2 years old and has enough trail rash and up north pinstriping that the appearance of wear on the tread of the spare is probably the last thing anyone will notice! :lmao:

 

Okay forum wingnuts.....when someone asks about a 4 tire rotation....why don't you just ATFQ? I did not look at the forum question to scan through a bunch of bs comments about 5 tire rotation and also people saying why would you only rotate 4 tires. Just so you armchair quarterbacks will know, I have 4 studded tires that I put on in winters in Alaska because of the ice we get on the roads in Anchorage from the ocean effects. If you don't have studs, your tires will not grip on the ice at average speeds. Plus off-roading in the winter you get water seeps out of the hillsides that freeze into sheets of ice on a side hill slant....no studs and you slide off the road/trail. No unstudded tire will hold with any water flowing over the ice sheet. Chains won't even hold unless you have them modified. FYI.

 

Welcome to the forum. You dug up a 4 year old thread for this?

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Welcome from Arizona.

 

Welcome to the Forum, from Cave Creek AZ.