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Pilot Bearing Bushing Fix

5.8K views 7 replies 4 participants last post by  Warlordsix  
#1 ·
This all took place on an 05 Wrangler X

Ran into something while replacing my clutch, searching the internet I can't find any posts with this issue. Thought maybe I could help someone else out.

When removing the clutch assembly the pilot bushing fell out. I have had several people try to correct me and tell me it is a pilot bearing, not bushing. The bushing is what the pilot bearing presses into, then I am told no, the pilot bearing just pushes into the end of the crank. The pilot bearing is part number SCE-1295 (National Bearing) the bushing part number is FC69907 this comes with the needle bearing already inserted.

My pilot bushing was completely loose, the resistance to insert or remove, the outside of the bushing was eaten away. No problem, get a new one. Got new one and drove it in, slid in tight then all of a sudden went loose. Turns out the bushing was spinning inside the crank and removed enough material that it was only tight for the first 1/4" or so. I decided to drive it in until t was flush with the outside of the crank, that is when the recess on the bearing kept it from staying tight.

I tried to drive it in until the recess was flush with the end of the crank, this was very solid, but couldn't get it quite straight and didn't feel comfortable with that as a solution, fearing it was not completely straight and would prematurely wear the pilot bearing I abandoned that plan.

Final solution, I took the bearing to a machine shop and he filled in the the recessed area larger than ridge that catches, then put it into a lathe and gave me a flat surface to catch on the crank when driving it in. This worked beautifully, I drove the bushing in and it now stuck out about 2mm. One concern I had was that center of the clutch plate would rub on this piece, I took several measurements prior to install and I fest I had about a 1/2" to spare. The pilot bushing is now approximately 5mm closer to the clutch than before. After installing the clutch I stuck my finger through the clutch and could fell that I had about 1/2" between the clutch center and the pilot bearing, so that should be good.

One thing I neglected to measure is whether the splines of the input shaft would contact the pilot bushing due to the extra 5mm, I highly doubt it, but that will continue to float in the back of my head.
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#3 ·
Nice fix, it's hard to figure out why you had that problem though. I have only removed that bushing and pilot bearing, I never tried to replace it since I was doing a transmission conversion (to an automatic) at the time I had to remove it. You're not the first to mention problems getting the right bushing and pilot bearing!
 
#5 ·
Time to eat crow, do not do what I did, it will not work.

I had measured clearance for the clutch and it was fine, what was not fine was the input shaft, it contacted my bushing and pushed the pilot bearing in slightly and then the input shaft wore on the bushing, finally causing the bushing to wear out. and start spinning. Wasn't sure what was happening until I pulled the transmission back out.

So, what to do now...

Got a new bushing and pushed it all the way in, even though it was night tight, it was tight enough to keep it centered. I then had a buddy weld the bushing into the end of the crank. Been driving it about two weeks now and it appears to be working fine. I was worried that this might damage the crank, but, what did I have to lose? Worse case scenario it does not work and I pull the engine out and replace the crank.

Only time will tell!

John
 
owns 2005 Jeep Wrangler X
#7 ·
Over a year into it and no issues that I know of, not taking the tranny out to find out. I figure if it does give up the ghost, I will need to replace the crank, if I do that, may look into stroking it or just doing an engine swap. Time will tell, love the Jeep, gotta keep her running.

Yes, the bevel side was on the engine side.

Are you having the same issue?

John
 
owns 2005 Jeep Wrangler X