[Jeep1029]

Coming back from NYC to Toronto, I was running both Waze and the Uconnect 730 navigation, it appears Uconnect was actively peeping traffic, it rerouted me 4 times and some parts of the rerouting was parallel to the highway and I could see traffic at a standstill, Waze did it once and it looked like a convoluted reroute so I ignored it.

Never had luck with Waze in Toronto, always tend to route you to another congested route vs my secret routes, which I will not expose to Waze.

 

[Adventure.AS]

Coming back from NYC to Toronto, I was running both Waze and the Uconnect 730 navigation, it appears Uconnect was actively peeping traffic, it rerouted me 4 times and some parts of the rerouting was parallel to the highway and I could see traffic at a standstill, <snip>

I have the 430N and am using the free 1 yr subscription to Sirius/XM. I was under the impression that the traffic information was not available in the Jeep. Do you have a US or Canadian subscription?

 

[adverselection]

I never use Waze for navigation, but do fire it up to look ahead for speed traps.

 

[Jeep1029]

I have the 430N and am using the free 1 yr subscription to Sirius/XM. I was under the impression that the traffic information was not available in the Jeep. Do you have a US or Canadian subscription?

I'm not sure, the 730 was replaced about two weeks after I bought the Wrangler, so I don't know if there was a mixup when they ordered the replacement radio.

However I noticed the traffic icon go green a couple of weeks ago, for the last 4 months it wasn't green, I don't use GPS in Toronto so I don't know if it works here, but it did in New York.

I'll test it out tonight and get back to you about the results.

 

[jkudave]

I have the 430N and am using the free 1 yr subscription to Sirius/XM. I was under the impression that the traffic information was not available in the Jeep. Do you have a US or Canadian subscription?

The 430N does not have traffic. The 730N does.

 

[Jeep1029]

Apparently when the icon goes green it means that there is an active subscription.

In the image it shows a construction icon also, but that is one of the very few that displayed in Toronto, I saw about 3 traffic related icons when I zoomed out.

I took two trips this afternoon one around the city and one to the airport, and I was never rerouted, so I guess there is no Canadian support, however, I don't need that kind of guidance for 95% of my driving which is limited to the downtown core.

Will do some test for the rest of the week in the mornings and afternoons when traffic it heavier.

It came in really handy on the NY trip though, hopefully it's the 5 year "free" subscription, at least I get a little nugget of gold for the $400 XM option that I don't use.

 

[wiredinoc]

Nothing beats waze for traffic and nav. XM traffic is based on local gov't traffic sources. Waze is crowd sourced by others using the waze app. I added a RAM mount to put a $75 android tablet next to the head unit to get waze. The days of auto mfgr's depending on new sales due to built in obsolesce with their crap technology are coming to an end quickly. IMO, no traffic or GPS unit in any car can beat waze. Short of what they are putting in Tesla's.

 

[Adventure.AS]

The 430N does not have traffic. The 730N does.

Here is a link to a press release from Chrysler in June of 2014 that "announced today that customers who purchase a properly equipped 2015 Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge, Ram Truck vehicle or select 2014 model year (vehicles purchased after July 1) will receive a five-year subscription to SiriusXM Traffic and SiriusXM Travel Link."

"The services enable traffic information, detailed fuel prices, weather conditions, sports scores, and schedules and local movie theater listings. Systems that will support the five-year subscription to SiriusXM Traffic and SiriusXM Travel Link include Uconnect 8.4AN, Uconnect 8.4N, Uconnect 730N and Uconnect 430N."

It looks like the 430N is capable, but they may have reneged.

 

[SJLG]

One big difference is that XM traffic only serves certain cities (none within an hour of me); whereas waze is everywhere. Google maps also uses waze data if you want to avoid another app.

 

[jkudave]

Here is a link to a press release from Chrysler in June of 2014 that "announced today that customers who purchase a properly equipped 2015 Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge, Ram Truck vehicle or select 2014 model year (vehicles purchased after July 1) will receive a five-year subscription to SiriusXM Traffic and SiriusXM Travel Link."

"The services enable traffic information, detailed fuel prices, weather conditions, sports scores, and schedules and local movie theater listings. Systems that will support the five-year subscription to SiriusXM Traffic and SiriusXM Travel Link include Uconnect 8.4AN, Uconnect 8.4N, Uconnect 730N and Uconnect 430N."

It looks like the 430N is capable, but they may have reneged.

What you posted about is about Sirius XM Traffic and Sirius Travel Link.

The 430N is Sirius Travel Link Capable. Travel Link doesn't provide real-time traffic nor provide traffic redirection in the navigation software. From the 430N manual:

Now, in addition to delivering over 130 channels of the best sports, entertainment, talk and 100% commercial-free music, SIRIUS now offers premium infotainment services that work in conjunction with compatible navigation systems. SIRIUS Travel Link brings a wealth of useful information into your vehicle and right to your fingertips.

The 730N is Sirius XM Traffic and Sirius Travel Link Capable. From the 730N manual:

The SIRIUS Real-time Traffic feature is a specific application of the radio receiver used for receiving real-time traffic. The navigation radio receives traffic messages with the satellite radio receiver. You must have a subscription with SIRIUS to receive this service. Refer to the Re-Subscribe to SIRIUS Satellite Radio chapter in the Radio section of this manual. SIRIUS Real-time Traffic Flow. Traffic flow information is fed to SIRIUS Traffic by roadway sensors monitored and maintained by local departments of transportation. The availability of these feeds varies city by city and is limited by road infrastructure and maintenance.

 

[Adventure.AS]

What you posted about is about Sirius XM Traffic and Sirius Travel Link.

<snip>

The SIRIUS Real-time Traffic feature is a specific application of the radio receiver used for receiving real-time traffic. The navigation radio receives traffic messages with the satellite radio receiver. You must have a subscription with SIRIUS to receive this service. <snip> The availability of these feeds varies city by city and is limited by road infrastructure and maintenance.

If you look at the last line of the second paragraph of the quote they say that the 430N will be capable. "Systems that will support the five-year subscription to SiriusXM Traffic and SiriusXM Travel Link include Uconnect 8.4AN, Uconnect 8.4N, Uconnect 730N and Uconnect 430N."

They seem to have reneged on the five year subscription and the Traffic Flow for the 430N.

 

[jkudave]

If you look at the last line of the second paragraph of the quote they say that the 430N will be capable. "Systems that will support the five-year subscription to SiriusXM Traffic and SiriusXM Travel Link include Uconnect 8.4AN, Uconnect 8.4N, Uconnect 730N and Uconnect 430N."

They seem to have reneged on the five year subscription and the Traffic Flow for the 430N.

430N gets 5 years for Travel Link. It doesn't support SiriusXM Traffic, so it can't get that and there's nothing to reneg on.

 

[Adventure.AS]

"Systems that will support the five-year subscription to SiriusXM Traffic and SiriusXM Travel Link include Uconnect 8.4AN, Uconnect 8.4N, Uconnect 730N and Uconnect 430N."

I must be misunderstanding what you are saying as this quote from the press release seems pretty unambiguous to me - it states that the Uconnect 430N is included in the supported systems. As it is not working in 2015 JKU then it seems like they didn't update the software as promised in the new release. I think that meets the definition of reneging. ("renege = go back on a promise, undertaking, or contract.)

 

[jkudave]

"Systems that will support the five-year subscription to SiriusXM Traffic and SiriusXM Travel Link include Uconnect 8.4AN, Uconnect 8.4N, Uconnect 730N and Uconnect 430N."

I must be misunderstanding what you are saying as this quote from the press release seems pretty unambiguous to me - it states that the Uconnect 430N is included in the supported systems. As it is not working in 2015 JKU then it seems like they didn't update the software as promised in the new release. I think that meets the definition of reneging. ("renege = go back on a promise, undertaking, or contract.)

It's simple. All 430N radios, not just 2015, don't support SiriusXM Traffic. The Garmin nav software on the 430N doesn't support SiriusXM Traffic. The 430N does support Travel Link, which is not the same and has no ties to navigation. The only thing supported on the 430N is Travel Link, and as such, the press release is not 100% accurate.

 

[Jeep1029]

Does not appear that the Canadian subscriptions support SiriusXM Traffic or SiriusXM Travel Link, maybe they made a mistake and gave me a US subscription with the replacement 730N.

A web search returns quite a few discussions about these services in Canada. I am just happy mine works in the US which is where I would need it the most.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=jeep+...onnect siriusxm traffic canada&elv=ANJOTFIPR9dbY1TTfQ89eIpjuvutk8VAJowhyOrDRULT

 

[RubiconSS]

My question is HOW is XM/Sirius still in business?

Mediocre sound quality
The WORST customer disservice in the history of service.
Plethora of FREE Music sources on Everybody's Dumbphone.

I don't get it.

 

[sonvolt22]

My question is HOW is XM/Sirius still in business?

Mediocre sound quality
The WORST customer disservice in the history of service.
Plethora of FREE Music sources on Everybody's Dumbphone.

I don't get it.

Two words: Howard Stern

 

[SJLG]

My question is HOW is XM/Sirius still in business?

Mediocre sound quality
The WORST customer disservice in the history of service.
Plethora of FREE Music sources on Everybody's Dumbphone.

I don't get it.

+100

I don't get it either. Pandora for one is so much better.

 

[RubiconSS]

Two words: Howard Stern

Five words:

Is not worth the aggravation

 

[Adventure.AS]

My question is HOW is XM/Sirius still in business?

Mediocre sound quality
The WORST customer disservice in the history of service.
Plethora of FREE Music sources on Everybody's Dumbphone.

I don't get it.

Maybe in the USA streaming music from 3G or LTE is free, but in Canada the cost of data streaming is a lot more expensive than Siruis/XM. Besides that there are many places where cell phone reception and over-the-air radio is minimal or non-existent, whereas Sirius/XM is available everywhere.