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2.5l running lean, but terrible mpg

7.7K views 17 replies 5 participants last post by  Mohawk731  
#1 ·
Hey guys! I'm new to the forum here and have been searching for a post with an answer but have been unable to find one.

I have a 98 2.5l 4cyl manual on 285's with a 2" lift (4.10 gears - on the short list to go to 4.88). I just had the engine rebuilt, due to it being noisy and having fuel pressure issues, and now I've got a persistent p0171 code. When they rebuilt the engine, they had to bore out the Cylinders to fix a bunch of issues (warped and scored cyclone era, detonated Pistons) but I do not know how much over they went. I've checked the exhaust, vacuum lines, changed the upstream o2 and crank position sensor (it's also throwing a code for intermittent crank position sensor) and verified the MAP sensor is properly working. I pulled the plugs yesterday and they look like it is indeed running lean on all 4 cylinders. Earlier this year I changed the fuel pump/filter so I know it's not those. The kicker is that before the rebuild I was getting 16-18 mpg and now I'm getting 10 when I have a tail wind. Is it possible that they had to bore it far enough that my injectors can't put enough fuel in?

Yes I realize they shouldn't have sent it back with the CEL on, but for the price j paid I can't really argue.

I appreciate any help!
 
#3 ·
What brand O2 sensor was used? What brand CPS was used?

Anything other than NGK/NTK O2 sensor could be causing you problems. Especially Bosch O2 sensors are notorious for causing problems in TJs,

Check your fuel rail pressure despite having a new pump. You should have 49 psi. As far as the pump goes, Bosch or Mopar is what you want there.
 
#5 ·
Well dang, that was fast.

I'll start with checking fuel rail pressure. It's a bosch o2, but if the O2 was reading lean, wouldn't it be dumping fuel in and fouling up the plugs? The plugs look like it is actually lean..

The fuel pump was changed earlier last year and I don't remember the brand right off, but it wasn't an auto store special or anything.

The CPS was an Airtex/wells sensor

I checked the manifold, but I'll double check it when I check the fuel pressure
 
#7 ·
Found my fuel pump receipt, it's a bosch as well
I never mentioned that the O2 sensor was reading lean, I just know form personal experience (98 2.5) the PO didn't do the best at maintenance. I had constant O2 sensor codes despite having the receipt still in the Jeep from the PO of a brand new sensor. I ordered a NTK from RockAuto Parts Catalog and have had zero issues since installing that. That one sensor cured 1) the CEL coming on constantly, 2) a slight miss that I had around 2K rpm when cold 3) seemingly worse than what I should have been getting MPG, I went from about 10 MPG to about 14. I have 6" lift and 35" tires so I know I am blessed to be getting 14 and I'm happy with that.

As for the CPS, I would recommend a Mopar sensor. I fought issues with an advance auto brand (BDM maybe?) and finally ordered a Mopar sensor from Mopar Parts | Dodge Parts | Jeep Parts | Chrysler Parts | Ram Truck Parts | Wermopar and have had zero issues since that.

as long as you get the 49 psi at the fuel rail, I would say you will be good to go with the Bosch pump. That is what they came from the factory with and have proven time and time again to be a suitable replacement.
 
#10 ·
I wouldn't just throw parts at it anymore. I would test the crank sensor that you replaced. Many times the parts house sensors show signs of not working properly right out of the box.

As for the lean condition no longer showing... That is exactly what was going on with my Bosch sensor. Sometimes it would throw a code and sometimes it wouldn't.
 
#18 ·
I got a chance to swap out that distributor and:
a) OMG HOLY CRAP i never knew a TJ motor could run so smooth
b) my old distributor had mad crazy play in it apparently and was rusty on the inside, so it was shot
c) no CEL yet and I'm past the point I could get to before.

The engine is noticeably smoother, running at lower RPM's when at speed, and I've found power I didn't know I was missing. I've still got some miles to put on it before i can get emissions and before I can really be sure the stupid CEL is behind me but at the moment it seems to have made a world of difference. Although, it pisses me off that the shop that did the rebuild didn't notice it was rusty or had play in it. Seems like something you'd want to replace when doing a rebuild on a vehicle that's close to 200k miles. On the upshot, now i know how to replace a distributor.