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430n speed sensitive volume?

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#1 ·
Quick question about the 430n, is the sound speed sensitive? It is really noticeable, not really volume wise but its clarity, when you speed up it seems to noticably get more treble to it and sound way better. There doesn't seem to be an option to change it but it is quite annoying. It sounds great drive but its kind of bleh at a stop light or something. An I imagining this or has anyone else experienced it.

It's a 2013 JKUS
 
#2 ·
I've never noticed a difference. We have bad FM out here. So my reception changes as I move through town. I guess I will have to listen better the next time I get off the hill.
 
#4 ·
mannaggia said:
I thought the 430N didn't have speed sensitive volume. I have a 2012 JKU and as far as I know it doesn't. Am I wrong?
No, you are not wrong. Although it might be possible that it was added for 2013, but if so, no news on that update. If it was added, there usually will be a corresponding sensitivity control added in the set up menu.
 
#6 ·
It happens with the CD and ipod. I dont listen to FM or AM and satellite I only listen to O&A so you wouldnt be able to tell a difference. It is a clear difference but I see no option in anything on the stereo. Im going to the dealer tonight, I will probably just ask them there. Hopefully they will know. Thanks everyone for the input.
 
#7 ·
Master Pain 80 said:
It happens with the CD and ipod. I dont listen to FM or AM and satellite I only listen to O&A so you wouldnt be able to tell a difference. It is a clear difference but I see no option in anything on the stereo. Im going to the dealer tonight, I will probably just ask them there. Hopefully they will know. Thanks everyone for the input.
When I use my I Pod I notice a change in volume between songs. I am thinking it is the I Pod not the radio.
 
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Master Pain 80 said:
I know, I do now, but its during the songs that the change occurs, not song to song. Its more of a clarity issue than a volume, it sounds like it get louder when you start driving because the treble comes back and makes it clearer and a bit louder.
That's really strange. I thought my music sounded a little funny the other day and then went away. Ill look into it!
 
#15 ·
You said this is during CD play and Ipod? Are the CDs Burned ones or Original? Reason I ask is, if you download your music to burn and to put on the Ipod, check your Bites Rate settings....the Best is 96kbs and 128kbs, anything higher is overkill and distorts speakers....Alot of people use Variable kbs but unless it is converted from a PERFECT audio the sound goes up and down and then a sudden blast of highs...LOL...Another check you can do is, do you have hardtop or soft? The hardtop wiring connecter may be lose, the unit and amp adjust for top being on and/or off.....3rd, you amp may be trying to over process the chanels for any reason from movement to loose hardness.....Good Luck
 
#16 ·
I have the hard top. If the front tops arent lined up right will it cause it to do that? Who knows, Ive had it for 2 days and cant remember what happened when but I do know that it is annoying.

It was a burnt cd from itunes which would be the 128kbs. When I was listening to the ipod it was streaming bluetooth. I just started actually hooking it into the usb today but havent had a chance to give it a listen. I will do that on the way home from work today to see how it is. Who knows, it could have been the bluetooth. Will let you all know what I find out.
 
#17 ·
Nah, the connnector for rear wiper and defogg goes thru the Canbus and Chrysler programed the amp/head unit to lower the volume when top is off for a few reasons, but main one is not to Blast other Drivers ears I guess....lol...but there are some write ups showing how to put a Resistor jumped on the connector in back when topp is off....I use to have a music problem with my songs doing alot like you are talking about and I found out it was my Itunes. I like iTunes for my internet radio music but when it comes to simple tasks or just play my music in a random order, all it knows to do is very weak and the Random is the same every time you use it...or say i i have one more songs from one artist then others, itunes doen't know how to make sure it doesn't play the same artist song after it just played a different song from same artist...lol....and don't get me started on the MULTI copies of each song...LOL.....I hope you work it out...I'll do what i can to help with advise...at the moment I'm actually putting a new amp from the SRT Grand Cherokee/300 that is 9 speakers and my sub and ...1000 watts and center channel for surround....and you know what, i think i just remembered that this as the auto volume i think in the amp....LOL....If anybody is looking for the 368 watt wrangler amp, I have one for sale that was removed new and perfect condition...and a streeing wheel, new, that is the new style with controls. I have 2 and putting one on my 08 in place of the originial one....08 S wheel also, Khaki....this 08 Sahara i have only has 4000 miles on it.....LOL....let me know if you fix it or new some info...thanks
 
#18 ·
Master Pain 80 said:
sweet, so Im not crazy. Yeah, the fact there is no option was driving me nuts going through the settings.

So, JWilson2598, I heard I just missed you when I went to pick up my Commando. How you liking your new Jeep? I'm in love with mine.
So far so good, loving it.
 
#21 ·
No, I've noticed the same thing myself: the volume definitely decreases when the Jeep comes to a stop, and goes back up when I get moving again. I was going nuts sifting through all the menus, trying to turn off this feature. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be possible. I've only listened to the (free) Sirius radio so far (have only had my JKUR a few weeks), but I'm sure the speed sensitive volume applies with other media as well.

Oh well, I still love my Jeep! ;)
 
#22 ·
I'm having the same issue! There is a definite difference in volume (decrease) when I come to a stop and then it goes up when I start moving again. It's really noticeable and really annoying. Happens on CDs, Sat Radio, Hard Drive songs.. everything!!
 
#23 ·
I've only noticed it since I switched to the soft top. I used to work in broadcasting and audio was my life, so I hear these sort of things. I've noticed that when I slow down the volume does decrease. Don't remember noticing it when the hard top was on.

Just yesterday I noticed it when I would stop at red lights and looked through the menu system to see if there was an adjustment. Nope, not even an acknowledgment that it exists.
 
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#26 ·
Mine does it as well. I have the premium system with a 430 tbs installed. I don't think it did it with the hard top on, and I don't have my jumper in right now. That could be the fix.
 
#29 ·
Personally I like the volume decrease at low speeds. FWIW, my 2013 Sahara does it with the hard top on. What is annoying to me about the 430 is no way to balance volume between devices such as my iPod and SAT radio. iPod has much lower volume even with its volume at max. Had a 2 year old JVC head unit in the Xterra I traded and every volume source could be adjusted.
 
#31 ·
Woah, what's this about a jumper and the hard top VS soft top?? I took my hard top off like 4 days after buying my Jeep so I can't say it's a soft top only behavior, but if there is a way to fix/bypass this annoyance I'd love to find out how!! Can anyone talk about how we would go about creating this Jumper?
 
#33 ·
Thanks Panthermark, That was the thread I was thinking of, but did not have time to look it up yesterday.

Bad_Dog: I also think MP3 is, as you say it "Evil". I can't stand anything at 128kbs. I pretty much encode everything at 320. I've only had my Jeep for a month and a half, and I have not yet tried any FLAC files yet, but I assume they will not work on the 430n. Many of the Sirius channels are so compressed that I can't listen to them. And the ones that are less compressed, sound borderline OK but only play shitty music so...

I also did a bit of FM radio installs, but In my previous life, I mainly worked/toured as a soundman and tech director. For the past 15 years, I've been playing the A/V guy and medical photographer in a Hospital. The hours are way better, and I spend much more time at home. My party trick back then was to call out frequencies that other techs would play back or when the monitor tech on stage was getting feedback, I'd call out the frequency from the FOH on the clearcoms.

dp
 
#35 ·
Bad_Dog: I also think MP3 is, as you say it "Evil". I can't stand anything at 128kbs. I pretty much encode everything at 320. I've only had my Jeep for a month and a half, and I have not yet tried any FLAC files yet, but I assume they will not work on the 430n. Many of the Sirius channels are so compressed that I can't listen to them. And the ones that are less compressed, sound borderline OK but only play shitty music so...
Sirius audio quality is a whole other thread, and I agree with you.

FLAC is something that I haven't spent time playing with, but not many devices will play it. I highly doubt our HU will play it. It probably only supports WAV, MP3, and WMV (I'm too lazy to look it up). I don't even think an iPod will play FLAC.

Another reason why I've invested time in it is because I really don't want to re-rip my entire library. I did it all at 320 (though I have a few at 256) and I don't hear the compression so I'm happy with it.