[Jay_C]

I bought a ax15 for my yj project and it spun over fine when I bought it the guy said it was looked over and seemed fine inside. For some reason it only will go into 3rd and nothing else. The shifter will move left but not right. 1st 2nd 4th 5th and Reverse are not possible any ideas. I tried moving the reverse gear left whilst pushing my screw driver right and it wouldn’t budge with the clutch even pushed down
-John

 

[notjustafordguy]

Yikes, that bites!
Hope some one here can help you, don't sound good.

 

[Jay_C]

Yikes, that bites!
Hope some one here can help you, don't sound good.

thanks

 

[notjustafordguy]

thanks

I can find a ton of info on third gear problems, all are the opposite of your problem, these people cannot get it out or in, none like yours only going into third?

 

[Jay_C]

I can find a ton of info on third gear problems, all are the opposite of your problem, these people cannot get it out or in, none like yours only going into third?

Yea its a weird problem, sometimes it can go into 4th but not all the time. Pushing the lever to the right doesn't even work and with left it wont go up or down

 

[notjustafordguy]

Well I searched this today, my ax15 does not go inti gear - Google Search
I found alot of good reading, in most it mentions your clutch being the culprit. I got to thinking, "Hey I did not ask about your clutch? Because you say it will go into third, well third is straight up and is the easiest geaar to get into without a clutch.
So I will ask, is your clutch working properly, when you installed that AX15, you may have missed something and your clutch linkage could be out of whack! I would go through and make sure that it is working as it should, then if not we can address other things and maybe some of our brilliant minds will help us figure this out for you.
Good luck, and I will see if we can get some other members to chime in.

 

[Jay_C]

Well I searched this today, my ax15 does not go inti gear - Google Search I found alot of good reading, in most it mentions your clutch being the culprit. I got to thinking, "Hey I did not ask about your clutch? Because you say it will go into third, well third is straight up and is the easiest geaar to get into without a clutch. So I will ask, is your clutch working properly, when you installed that AX15, you may have missed something and your clutch linkage could be out of whack! I would go through and make sure that it is working as it should, then if not we can address other things and maybe some of our brilliant minds will help us figure this out for you. Good luck, and I will see if we can get some other members to chime in.

Well I searched this today, my ax15 does not go inti gear - Google Search I found alot of good reading, in most it mentions your clutch being the culprit. I got to thinking, "Hey I did not ask about your clutch? Because you say it will go into third, well third is straight up and is the easiest geaar to get into without a clutch. So I will ask, is your clutch working properly, when you installed that AX15, you may have missed something and your clutch linkage could be out of whack! I would go through and make sure that it is working as it should, then if not we can address other things and maybe some of our brilliant minds will help us figure this out for you. Good luck, and I will see if we can get some other members to chime in.

It’s got a v8 paired to it with a McLeod clutch kit and Hydramax hydraulic throwout bearing if that helps. I’m going to try taking the driveshaft out and retrying

 

[notjustafordguy]

It’s got a v8 paired to it

That helps. There are a bunch of guys here that know alot about your setup, so I will leave it to them to get you the right answers.
Just hang tight, good luck with your project!

Edit-
You know of this site Novak Conversions Home with you setup I am sure you do, but if not, these guys have a wealth of info for your setup.

 

[Jay_C]

That helps. There are a bunch of guys here that know alot about your setup, so I will leave it to them to get you the right answers.
Just hang tight, good luck with your project!

Edit-
You know of this site Novak Conversions Home with you setup I am sure you do, but if not, these guys have a wealth of info for your setup.

Yes I do, I used their adapter plate to gm bellhosuing, thanks again

 

[Luckymac]

Can you get the transmission back into neutral? If so, rock the Jeep back and forth with the engine off. Roll it forward a foot or so and then roll it back a foot or so. See if it will shift all the gears.
If it won't shift all the gears, remove the driveshafts, support the engine and drop the crossmember. See if it will shift all the gears. If not, drop the trans/transfer case. With the transmission on the floor, try to shift it. If it won't shift all the gears, remove the TC. Try shifting again.
By the process of elimination you'll be able to determine what's causing the transmission to not shift.
If it won't shift all alone on the floor, I'd ask for my money back.
It's unlikely you'll get tour money back, so I'd Google "overhaul AX15".

Let us know what you discover.

Good Luck, L.M.

 

[Jay_C]

Can you get the transmission back into neutral? If so, rock the Jeep back and forth with the engine off. Roll it forward a foot or so and then roll it back a foot or so. See if it will shift all the gears. If it won't shift all the gears, remove the driveshafts, support the engine and drop the crossmember. See if it will shift all the gears. If not, drop the trans/transfer case. With the transmission on the floor, try to shift it. If it won't shift all the gears, remove the TC. Try shifting again. By the process of elimination you'll be able to determine what's causing the transmission to not shift. If it won't shift all alone on the floor, I'd ask for my money back. It's unlikely you'll get tour money back, so I'd Google "overhaul AX15". Let us know what you discover. Good Luck, L.M.

Thanks, I removed the rear driveshaft spun the output shaft trying to pop the reverse back in. It didn’t work. So before I pull it is there a possibility that the shifter linkage in the top is put back in wrong, meaning the one accessed through behind the tranny where the TC bolts

 

[notjustafordguy]

I would defiantly go through all your shift/clutch linkage before you start dropping things, like LM said, process of elimination! Always start with the easiest and cheapest, but who am I to say this? You get desperate to get things done, anyway, wish you luck in finding the culprit.

And I am sure some one here can help you before you get to deep into this.

 

[Jay_C]

I would defiantly go through all your shift/clutch linkage before you start dropping things, like LM said, process of elimination! Always start with the easiest and cheapest, but who am I to say this? You get desperate to get things done, anyway, wish you luck in finding the culprit.

And I am sure some one here can help you before you get to deep into this.

Thankyou

 

[Jay_C]

I would defiantly go through all your shift/clutch linkage before you start dropping things, like LM said, process of elimination! Always start with the easiest and cheapest, but who am I to say this? You get desperate to get things done, anyway, wish you luck in finding the culprit.

And I am sure some one here can help you before you get to deep into this.

I was looking at pictures of when I installed the tranny and noticed that the detent ball behind the reverse switch was not there, being thats the case would that more than likely be the problem?

 

[Got it at last]

There have been comments about detents sticking causing gear rails binding causing locked into gear scenarios, but I have no experience with them. If you are missing a detent completely I would stop. Drain fluid and run a magnet around inside if you don't find it stuck to the drain magnet.
Pray that's not wedged into something internal or you'll be splitting the cases.

 

[Jay_C]

There have been comments about detents sticking causing gear rails binding causing locked into gear scenarios, but I have no experience with them. If you are missing a detent completely I would stop. Drain fluid and run a magnet around inside if you don't find it stuck to the drain magnet.
Pray that's not wedged into something internal or you'll be splitting the cases.

alright, I will drain it and look around see if I can find anything if not should I just put new ones in or would the binding up be that of one being stuck inside the upper top intermediate plate one and right side?

 

[Got it at last]

alright, I will drain it and look around see if I can find anything if not should I just put new ones in or would the binding up be that of one being stuck inside the upper top intermediate plate one and right side?

If you got the trans. with the stick plate off as in your pic it could go either way. if you popped the top it and the spring are definitely still in there and if it dropped to the bottom it can be hopefully rolled to the drain pluig which should have a magnet to collect metal shavings on it.

And no you vcannot drive it with anything bouncing around loose in there. Hand turn the internals only.

 

[Jay_C]

If you got the trans. with the stick plate off as in your pic it could go either way. if you popped the top it and the spring are definitely still in there and if it dropped to the bottom it can be hopefully rolled to the drain pluig which should have a magnet to collect metal shavings on it. And no you vcannot drive it with anything bouncing around loose in there. Hand turn the internals only.

Alright I’ll note that and see what route to take

 

[Luckymac]

Thanks, I removed the rear driveshaft spun the output shaft trying to pop the reverse back in. It didn’t work. So before I pull it is there a possibility that the shifter linkage in the top is put back in wrong, meaning the one accessed through behind the tranny where the TC bolts

I bought a used AX15 from a 1995 Cherokee. Before I installed it I opened the case to look for worn/beat syncros or other possible issues. I seem to remember the shifter shaft has a long end and a short end. So, to answer your question, I kinda/sorts think the shaft can be put in reversed. You have to remove the two "Frankenstein" bolts on each side of the shift tower and the TC has to be off so that the shaft can slide out the back of the tower. My memory isn't real good, so don't be mad at me if it isn't like that.
Pic is what the transmission looks like with its' clothes off.

If your transmission is missing the reverse detent ball you have some fiddling to do. Hopefully it will roll out when you drain the transmission fluid or you can tease it out with a mechanics magnet.
If you can't find it, you may be faced with pulling the case off just to be sure it's not rolling around in there.

Let us know what you discover.

Good Luck, L.M.

 

[Jay_C]

I bought a used AX15 from a 1995 Cherokee. Before I installed it I opened the case to look for worn/beat syncros or other possible issues. I seem to remember the shifter shaft has a long end and a short end. So, to answer your question, I kinda/sorts think the shaft can be put in reversed. You have to remove the two "Frankenstein" bolts on each side of the shift tower and the TC has to be off so that the shaft can slide out the back of the tower. My memory isn't real good, so don't be mad at me if it isn't like that.
Pic is what the transmission looks like with its' clothes off.

If your transmission is missing the reverse detent ball you have some fiddling to do. Hopefully it will roll out when you drain the transmission fluid or you can tease it out with a mechanics magnet.
If you can't find it, you may be faced with pulling the case off just to be sure it's not rolling around in there.

Let us know what you discover.

Good Luck, L.M.

I pulled it out of my Jeep and I found the this is how the levers looked and I don’t know why it keeps getting stuck in that 5th position. Sometimes it will get stuck like that or the reverse gear would need to be pushed back from the drain plug or even behind the reverse switch. Does the shift arm look worn out or could that be the problem? I tried finding comparable ones, remanufactured new ones but couldn’t find any online.