You're asking for a lot out of a single tire. Duratracs are great in slush/ice, while the MT/R-Ks are pretty terrible. Duratracs are so-so in mud, MT/R-Ks are good. Duratracs don't have the sidewall for sharp rocks whereas MT/R-Ks do. Deep snow, depends. If you're talking deep snow and only digging tires in snow, MT/R-Ks get the nod slightly, but as soon as they hit compacted snow or frozen ground/road/rocks, SOL.

For a winter DD, duratracs without a question.
For off-road, MT/R-Ks without a question.

Don't you also need snowflake tires in Canada for the winter? If so, that pretty much forces your hand.

 

All good stuff x2 ^^^^^^

But in Newfoundland? You get crazy snow

Buy rims. Get winter grips for winter and MTRs for summer.

Try winter tires in January.... you will never go back.... screw the all season snowflake.
Serious snow takes serious winter tires... without compromise.

 

well the MT/Rs are snow rated.. but they dont have the snowflake stamp though... hmmm

and i already got KOs on there now.. only reason im looking for a new tire is because these suck in the mud! they dont clean the treads so its like running on slicks once i go through the dirt!

 

If you like the KOs enough for winter DD, just get set of cheap wheels for the MT/R-Ks and run them spring - fall.

I have the MT/R-Ks on my Wrangler and the Duratracs on my Cherokee. Highly recommend not running the MT/R-Ks on the street in the winter, they're good for donuts and not much else. 99% of the time I'm Open/Open in 4-HI with the Cherokee in the snow, with 240lbs of gravel bags + gear in the back I have zero issues.

The MT/R-K can get squirrely on greasy wet pavement. Just the nature of big lugs with no siping. If you got them siped, you could get by, but then you're probably going to tear them up in the rocks.

 

X2, I think you're expecting too much from a single tire. I don't know of a tire that is good in mud that can also be good on a slick icy road.

 

Each of them are better at different things but by the sounds of it you might have to sacrifice some offroad ability for winter safety.

 

In the middle of a Lake. Iced up boat ramp posed zero issues.

Wrangler with MT/R-Ks, trying to make to one of my wheeling spots in VT. I couldn't make it up the next hill, tires spun on plowed road and turned thin layer of snow to ice -- fine in the deep stuff but I couldn't even get there without winching through the typical DD roads that the Cherokee has zero problems with.

 

Great pics!

 

2 completely different tires. You would be better off with the DT's.

 

heres my Jeep driving on stock size Yokohame Geolanders

no wheel spin, just push the snow.

 

had very good service out of my duratracs

 

Living here in Fl........ i dont think ive ever seen that much white SAND lol. BUT...... id get some studded tires for the winter, what ever that is.

 

I would go with the dura-tracs great all round tire, great on ice and snow and can also be studded if need be.

 

I have MT/R's and my brother has duratrac's. If your doing a LOT of wheeling, go MT/R. They are undoubitly stronger and they dont have a week sidewall like the duratracs. Even though it is your DD, the MT/R's arent all that bad on the highway and in fluffy snow. It is true that they dont do well in the compacted snow, but thats the tradeoff. Duratracs are exceptionally well for an AT, but they lack the sidewall that i would want when airing down.

 

People are forgetting to mention that the MTR'S are heavy, especially compared to the DT'S. Unless you are planning on mainly Rock Crawling you don't need to deal with the drawbacks of the MTR's. The whole weak sidewall thing of the DT'S is really overblown, I have aired down & thrown a ton of sharp rocky trails with my DT'S, never had any issues. Let's not forget that the MTR's need to be religiously rotated every 3k miles or they will wear bad. There is a whole lot of superior mud tires on the market compared to the MTR's, if you wanted a true mud tire.

 

I will admit that MT/R's are heavier and that DT's whole sidewall thing is overblown. I love both tires. If you drive on road a lot and have the occasional off road trek, go with the DT's. You'll save a lot of money in upfront cost, and milage. And I do a 5 tire rotation every 2k miles. I do it more as a precaution because I dont want any of them to wear unevenly. My brother never rotates his duratracs and they all look brand new. He has at least 10,000 miles on them too.

 

I live my Duratecs ...........
More than anything else they have a "Winter Tyre" rating ..... so I can use them all the year round.
I spend a lot of time in Germany and Norway ..... winter tyre fitment is required by law in the winter months.

 

You're asking for a lot out of a single tire. Duratracs are great in slush/ice, while the MT/R-Ks are pretty terrible. Duratracs are so-so in mud, MT/R-Ks are good. Duratracs don't have the sidewall for sharp rocks whereas MT/R-Ks do. Deep snow, depends. If you're talking deep snow and only digging tires in snow, MT/R-Ks get the nod slightly, but as soon as they hit compacted snow or frozen ground/road/rocks, SOL. For a winter DD, duratracs without a question. For off-road, MT/R-Ks without a question. Don't you also need snowflake tires in Canada for the winter? If so, that pretty much forces your hand.

Bought or ordered Toyo Open Country MT’s 235/85/16 should I switch to the DD? Live in Maine, we get more than flakes. Just not as much a Buffalo. It’s not even close to out west powder. It’s either dirty slush or ice. Oh yeah, Black Ice too “ not a slur to the brothas’ out there. Respect

 

Oh yeah, Black Ice too “ not a slur to the brothas’ out there.

 

Bought or ordered Toyo Open Country MT’s 235/85/16 should I switch to the DD? Live in Maine, we get more than flakes. Just not as much a Buffalo. It’s not even close to out west powder. It’s either dirty slush or ice. Oh yeah, Black Ice too “ not a slur to the brothas’ out there. Respect

Welcome to the Forum!

 

Mts dont tend to far well on ice. They are by nature more leaned to off road. people use them as a DD because it makes them look cool.

ATs would be better but not a true snow and ice tire. ATs fit better as DD as well.

and a Snow/Ice Tire would be best. they tend to be a softer compound with a lot of siping. But wont fair in the summer. Winter only.