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just as an FYI I used a cambuckle type tie down strap hooked around the top of the dipstick tube on my '08 and the other end hooked to the drivers side wheel (anything solid) to pull the dipstick over enough that I used a 1/4" ratchet and a deepwell 6 point 10mm socket on both bolts...the firewall insulation compressed enough even though it looks like there's no room.
 
What's the chances of the port where the egr mounts to the block or the head being clogged with carbon?

I just got the P0404 code and don't want to misdiagnose it.

Is there a step by step for checking the voltage? I saw somewhere it's supposed to be .4-5 voltage but could be wrong.

My dash temp is reading pretty close to the outside temp so I'm guessing that sensor isn't the issue.
 
I changed my egr valve today and thought I'd share my experience since this seems to be the only thread on the internet on swapping them out.

Swapping the egr took me less than 2.5 hrs. I made one of the bent 10mm wrenches instead of buying one. This thing was the ticket to loosen and tighten the back hard to get to bolt. Once I broke the 10 mm bolts loose I used a racheting wrench to speed up removing them.

The tube going from the egr to the intake had a good amount of carbon buildup at the intake end. I used a aircraft cable unwound at the end a little on a battery drill to knock the carbon loose then used carb cleaner and compressed air to finish cleaning the tube out.

As far as the port on the head I used 1/4" price of hard plastic air brake line called synflex that I heated up to make a 90 degree bend on. I slid the aircraft cable into the tube to guide the wire into the port to clean the carbon out of the opening. I used the same tube with the wire removed to flush out the port with carb cleaner when I was done. There really wasn't any carbon buildup in the port on the head like in the tube by the manifold.

I found it way easier to start the back 10mm bolt with the ratchet wrench. I had to mount bolts and gasket onto the egr (the metal gasket has built in keepers for the bolts) and put the wrench on the bolt head sliding everything all together into place. Without putting the wrench on the head of the bolt first the wrench didn't have enough room to clear the dipstick tube. I also didn't have to bend or pry the tube in any way.

I'll try and post a few pictures of the wrench and tube I used. Hope this helps out someone when tackling the this themselves.
 
Great write up and was very helpful during my EGR replacement endeavor!
One comment though - spent almost 2hrs trying to remove the red tab and couldn't get it out.... Googled red tab electrical connector and learned that you only need to push the tab to the left (not remove it) and then push the release bar and remove the connector! Came right off!!!
 
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I am in the middle of replacing my head gaskets and looking at the gaskets for the egr valve that came with the set it looks like they have a metal and a composite type gasket. Should I be using both and if so in what order? It would make sense to me that the composite would go between the valve and the metal gasket since the metal gasket would hold it in place but any help would be appreciated. Also, seeing as how I have the heads removed and cleaned up nicely what are everyone's thoughts on replacing the egr valve while I have everything apart? From the sound of this thread and others it is a common problem and a pain to replace it when everything is put together. I have about 200k miles on my jeep and looking to keep it going for a long time.
 
@dpraposo when I replaced my EGR valve, it only had the metal gasket. And yes, it'd probably make sense to replace it while the heads are off. Put a good one back on, I had problems with the Amazon ones. Finally got one from O'Reilly's. Good so far.
 
Well, I finally have a good news update. After taking my punishment and yet again trying to remove the stripped bolt, I finally broke down and took it into a shop I trust. The first ran an induction service which allowed the light to go out. But 24 hours later and it was back. So they agreed to change the EGR valve as well as use the one I previously purchased. So after $125 worth of labor, they had the stripped bolt out and had me on my way. He said the tube was extremely dirty as well so cleaned that. Hopefully this will teach me my lesson to let the experts handle this type of thing. So far, no return of the dreaded light or P0404 error. Fingers crossed.
 
Yet another ERG Replacement

First off I don’t usually do a bunch posting but in this case I felt compelled because this is one job that I couldn’t have done without everybody’s tips in this post. I have a 2011 Wrangler automatic. Once you remove the fender and wheel well, you more or less open a portal to hell. I sprayed down the bolts with Parts Blaster the night before and added the PB soaked rag on top of the hidden bolt. I feel that this was a good tip even though it appeared not to seep all the way down the threads. Every little bit helps in this repair. The two front bolts (8MM) and the lower (10MM) came out with no real problems. The hidden (10MM) is the part that is really the crux of the whole repair. Step one: you need to position the 10MM wrench on the bolt. This will take some doing and you should be prepared to spend the most amount of time on this. Patience is the key word here. The problem is twofold first you can’t see the bolt head second there’s little or no space to position the wrench. I could not have removed this bolt without using the before mentioned 10mm ratcheting box end wrench with swivel head. Best tip ever. Step two: get enough leverage to actually crank the wrench. I could only get 2 fingers on the wrench and it wasn’t budging. At this point I tried to move the whole ERG valve in a counter clockwise direction, to break the bolt free, and still no go. Time to break out the big guns I grabbed a pipe wrench and was able to move the valve a bit. Great! It should be loose now right? Nope. So the main problem of getting the wrench on the bolt done, just how to get enough Torque to spin the sucker? Then I hit upon my solution a rope with a strong Carabineer on it. It spun free so easy it was ridiculous. After hours of trying to get it free it took all of 2 minutes to get the wrench in place and loosen the bolt with steady pulling pressure on the rope. Now at this point I need to stress that the wrench has to be fully seated on the bolt because this is one bolt that you don’t want to strip the head on. Other things you should do while doing this repair are replacing the spark plugs. You have very easy access to what I think Is the Number 3 plug. Otherwise this thing is buried by a ton of hoses and the battery tray. At 83K miles this was a must on my jeep. Also this is a good opportunity to paint the fender and wheel well. I used my go to on the fender Bondo 800 Black restore and I tried the Krylon Fusion on the wheel well. I wanted to try the Krylon fusion flat Black but couldn’t find it anywhere so I went with the gloss. Other tools and supplies: Plastic rivet gun and rivets from Harbor Freight. The old plastic rivets were easy to pull out once I drove the center pin through with a punch and hammer. Also new plastic fender clips made this part easy. Thanks again to everybody else that has posted on this thread. Oh yeah the misting fan kept me alive in the Florida heat.
 

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Thanks for the write up... Very informative....

In preparation for replacing the EGR valve; I purchased a 10mm swivel ratcheting box wrench and a poly rivet kit from HF to replace the rivets that attach the fender liner to the fender lip.

https://www.harborfreight.com/hand-riveter-with-40-industrial-strength-poly-rivets-97757.html

I used a dog legged 10/11mm box wrench, a stubby 10mm, and a ratcheting combination wrench for the hidden bolt.
While the replacement was not difficult; accessing the hidden bolt with the automatic dipstick tube made the replacement tedious.
The replacement of the EGR was about 2 hours including cleanup.
 
Thanks for the write up... Very informative....

In preparation for replacing the EGR valve; I purchased a 10mm swivel ratcheting box wrench and a poly rivet kit from HF to replace the rivets that attach the fender liner to the fender lip.

https://www.harborfreight.com/hand-riveter-with-40-industrial-strength-poly-rivets-97757.html
It should not be necessary to have to re-rivet the fender liner to the fender.

Just remove the 5 bolts that hold the fender in place and slowly pry from the front of the vehicle back releasing the fender to body T clips one by one. (A plastic pry tool can work well to do this without causing body damage.)

The T-clips may break, but you can find them on Amazon for $8 for a box of 25.
 
If you are more than 200 lbs or approaching 6' then removing the fender and liner are preferred, but for me it was easier to separate the fender and liner. There was plenty of room for me with the tire removed.
 
So I did this a while back after reading all of this and everything went pretty well until...


The EGR valve I got didn't come with new bolts. I looked at the old ones closely and they looked just fine. I go to tighten them down and I started with the hidden one. Got it snug... no problems. Go to tighten the easy one and it acts like it might be cross threaded. Loosen it and try again... Cross threaded. Try again and it goes in pretty easy. I get the hidden one nice and tight first and then start to tighten the easy one and I get it almost all the way tight and SNAP!
The damn bolt broke off inside the head. So for whoever said it wont happen... it sure as shit will.
No clue if it was just cross threaded but I doubt it. I work in a machine shop and deal with this kind of stuff all the time. Weak bolt maybe? Who knows but now I have to figure out what to do.

Like I said I did this a while ago and I was pissed so I made sure the one bolt was nice and tight and buttoned it up to deal with another day. I had to do emissions a couple weeks later and it passed. Now about 6 months later the dreaded P0406 code is back and its not going anywhere. Time to tackle this PITA once again. Looks like the head has to come off so I can easy out the sheared bolt. Or something... Anybody know how hard it is to pull a head? Ive done it on my old Chevy 350 but everything on those are so much easier. I'm bummed, pissed, and don't know what the hell to do.


MAKE SURE your kit comes with new bolts!!! Not sure why the one I got at 4wp didn't but one from O'reilly's does but if I would have just gone with one that did, I doubt id be in the Shituation.
 
Replaced the EGR went mostly smooth with the Napa replacement. Upon startup the CEL was still on showing 0404 so I cleared it using a scanner tool. It’s off now, however my car has a loud ticking under acceleration now. Exhaust leak? Anyone encounter this? Do the gaskets have a special side or direction the need to seat? Thanks all
 
I didn't have any sounds after changing my valve, the metal gasket between the valve and engine is directional. I believe if it is reversed it will not line up with the openings between the two parts which might cause the leak.

Good luck,
 
Even with this write-up this was by far the most difficult and frustrating repair I've ever tackled on a Jeep. Most of it was self inflicted by not having a shallow enough socket and wrench to get to that back f%$#king bolt and by taking forever to figure out how release the tiny tab holding the electrical connection in place.

I ended up buying the Kobalt Xtreme Access 22-Piece Drive Pass-Through Socket set (Item #:747439) from Lowe's. I have an automatic so I still needed to use the crowbar to bend the dip stick tube back. The computer is still in reset mode so fingers crossed.
 
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