I moved your Thread to the JK General Forum. You should receive more responds in this Forum.

 

I have PSC Brawler Mid front bumper, Rock Brawler rear bumper & their Rocker Knocker sliders. The quality of their bumpers & sliders are top of the line. I do not have any complaints about the quality of their products. They are pricy but high quality. I painted my bumpers myself to save some money but got my sliders powder coated. I did not have any fit issues during my installation of the bumpers or sliders so overall no complaints from me.

 

Got em front and rear. Can't go wrong with them.

 

dont do it..

i bought a Rock Brawler rear bumper and after waiting four months to even get the bumper i still had to have it powder coated..

that was the easy part..

when mounting the bumper i found that it did not fit correctly.
it was so poorly constructed that if i used the holes for mounting that PS put in the material it would have broken my rear window with the cb mount.

the bumper itself is made of good material and for the most part is a good bumper.

but the poison spyder quality of construction has gone to crap.. I am very good at fabrication but when it is called a "bolt on" bumper it should be..

i had to drill new holes for mounting and use a come a long to pull the bumper into position for mounting.. yes it fits now but if you look at the mounting plates it is a joke..

there are much better constructed bumpers available..

 

I have the Brawler Lite with gussets, tabs and bar up front and an Ace on back. The brawler went on easily and is well made, so my experience has been good. That being said, the Ace rear looks every bit as well made. I just wanted to save weight up front for a winch with no sag. I also have Ace sliders, my second jeep with them. I felt the price difference between PS and Ace for the rears didn't make sense.

 

Same here. Love the brawler up front. Ace in rear. Very well made and fit right up. Local powder coat was $250

 

I have PS bumpers front/rear. A prybar is your best friend for installing the rear bumper. Front is easy...be sure to have a drill to elongate the holes. No complaints for me.

 

I like mine too.. but it should not be the way we had to install them..

close is one thing.. but either their jig is not used or it is shot..

ever since the corp that owns 4Wheel Parts bought out Poison Spyder the quality has gone down hill dramaticly..

customer service has gone to crap as well. no one knows anything or who to talk to any more.. shame really

 

This is my first PS product so I don't know if they changed some stuff up but I highly doubt it. It's still being assembled at the PS facility. The only other bumper I have experience with is the 10a/HR which was a direct bolt on and no need to elongate the oem holes like other aftermarket manufacturers.

I sure hope they fix your issue. I would be bothered as well.

 

I have multiple PSC products on my Jeep. The install was a breeze, no issues at all. I really like their products. I bought them all through Northridge4x4.

 

I have been running the stubby for years now, it was one of the first things I did to the jeep. If you are looking for something functional with the best approach angle possible, here it is. It's pretty inexpensive as well.

The only problem I had was when we tried to winch out a 20,000lb forklift using 2 snatchblocks. Bumper has a slight frown now. Pretty sure any bumper would and in retrospect that was a really dumb idea.

 

I have been running the stubby for years now, it was one of the first things I did to the jeep. If you are looking for something functional with the best approach angle possible, here it is. It's pretty inexpensive as well.

The only problem I had was when we tried to winch out a 20,000lb forklift using 2 snatchblocks. Bumper has a slight frown now. Pretty sure any bumper would and in retrospect that was a really dumb idea.

Your new tires are SICK!

 

I have the Brawlers front and Rear and their Rocker Knockers.

The only fit issues I had front and rear were my fault not paying attention to the instructions and not paying attention to the alignment. Once I got my head out of my ass they fit perfect and bolted right on.

I bought mine 5 months ago and they were in stock and in my hands in a few days.

I powder coated my own But they now offer them in Black Powder coat for an extra $100.

Love their products BUT I'm going all aluminum next time to save weight.

 

Floating bolt plate and retainers.....you will want to make sure you understand this part of the bumper. I didn't. But it is clearly mentioned in the install guide.

I thought the bolts were welded in place......also a pry bar is your friend on the rear Bruizer bumper.

Also...make sure you have Cobalt drill bits.

 

I'm looking at the Brawler Lite in black. I was going to paint it myself, but for $100 it's worth having them do it.

 

I have the Brawler Lite mid front, Brawler II rear, Rocker Brawlers, Evap skid plate and aluminum front and rear fenders. Not a single complaint and I would do it all again if I bought another Jeep. I can't say enough good things about their products, build quality and customer support.

 

Can you post some pics of your setup?

 

I just wish they made an aluminum version of the Brawler Lite. I highly doubt they will, but it would save so much on weight.

 

PSC BFH with Trail Stinger. Love the bumper.

 

I have the rocker knockers. I've yet to find anyone or any video that says they are crap. They look good, are made well and are something you will be so thankful you chose when the time comes.

 

How hard to install the front bumper and/or the rockets your self? Also, is the skid plate necessary?

 

The bumper is easy. The knockers, I am not sure. I didn't install those. They seem tedious with many nutserts to do so I would advise buying the proper tool to install them instead the one PSC sends with them. Makes things go a whole lot faster. Just make sure you take your time, measure everything 3 or 4 times to make sure holes line up and don't rush it.

Skid plate is cheap insurance. If your eval canister gets jacked then you will have a lot of issues and CELs so better safe then sorry on my opinion.

 

I just ordered their Brawler Mid front bumper with the bar and tabs, and the skid plate, already powder coated. Will report once I install it (hopefully next weekend.)

All the serious Jeepers in our club have PSC bumpers. They love them.

 

Ok, another question. Did you paint your own Poison Spyder stuff, or have them coat it? They charge a good chunk of money to coat, about $100 per piece and do not offer a coating option for the rocker knockers.

 

I have the Brawler Lite front and rear bumpers, Narrow Aluminum Crusher Flares, and Inner Fenders. I had a fitment issue on ONE flare, and Breven rectified the situation at no cost to me at all.

The bumpers were a breeze to install, and I did them completely myself. The flares were a little more involved, but again, done completely solo.

Few pictures:

 

So if you buy Poison bumper you have to get it painted?

 

They come bare but you can have them powder coated. Not sure if they are offering all of them in powder coat, but I recently order the JK brawler lite from Northridge in powder coat. Should have this week.

 

LOL, just realized you quoted me from my earlier post.

<---dumbass award winner for today

 

Nobody should wait that long for Poison Spyder Products. We have 99% of it all in stock and ready to ship. If you need a quote give us a call. Also we will be loading the powdercoated items this week.

 

I just put in my order for brawler lite tube gussets and tabs, any idea on when shipment will be coming in for powder coat products, salesman didn't really know, He said 5 weeks ish...

 

Nvm just got an update that they are only sending them out as the brawler MID and lite with plate gussets

 

Just installed the Brawler Mid with tabs and bar (and powdercoating) plus the matching skid plate and fairlead plate.

Overall the build quality is excellent and well worth the price IMO. The bumper fit perfectly onto the frame right away. Powdercoating looks very good, with a caveat below.

Some observations:

• Removing the crash bar is optional but you need to do it unless you have tiny hands. Otherwise good luck accessing the inner bolts!
• Speaking of bolts, make sure you try the nuts on them before mounting the bumper. Some powdercoating got on the ends of the bolts and had to be removed for the nuts to thread properly.
• I found it easier to mount the winch before installing the bumper. This adds weight but is otherwise much easier.

 

I just recently put on the front bruiser and rear bruiser. I would say that its the same amount of difficulty as any other bumper would be. Its not entirely to hard just takes a second set of hands and patience. With the bruiser bumper, aiming the front fog lights and rear area lights does take some time. You have to put the bumper on see where the light beam falls, take the bumper off to adjust the lights and do that as many times as it takes. But its nothing that cant be done in a driveway with basic tools (mine required some cutting and grinding of the crash bar on the frame of the jeep)

One thing i wish it had would be high lift jacking points and a place for the rear towing pigtail.