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Before you take the egr valve off I would highly recommend getting an S wrench. I had a time getting mine off because I didn't have one of these the first day I worked on it and stripped the bolt enough to where the wrench wouldn't work the next day when I did get it. Pb blaster is a godsend though and I was able to push the valve hard with the butt of my hammer and move it far enough towards the engine to get a ratchet wrench on it to loosen it enough. The S wrench was a tremendous help getting the new bolt in though. I didn't have to move the dipstick tube at all and its on there tight now. That wrench will save you a lot of time and hassle.
Yes, I agree with atleger_jk, S Wrenches do save time and reduce efforts tremendously for tight spots and corners jobs :thumb:
 
Thank you for the feedback. The "strap" is firmly connected to two ends. Thank you for filling me in on what it is. It seemed so out of place in there. I'll just leave it alone since it seems to be properly connected.

I'll try to tackle the stuck bolt again in a week or two. I have a 10mm Turbo Socket on order as well as a stubby and S wrench. First, I'll swap out the ambient air sensor just in case. Then if that doesn't work, try again on the bolt.

I see earlier someone mentioned the engine being cold. Should it be left in the garage at night and not started at all prior to trying the bolt again? Just wondering if that may help ease the pressure on the bolt.
 
I don't think it would matter weather it is cold or warm, as it is tightened to a certain torque.

Once you get your turbo socket go ahead and don't worry about it breaking.. it is a steel bolt into the aluminum cylinder head, so it won't break. New EGR valve normally comes with it's own bolts, so you wouldn't need to worry about the old bolts
 
Thank you for the feedback. The "strap" is firmly connected to two ends. Thank you for filling me in on what it is. It seemed so out of place in there. I'll just leave it alone since it seems to be properly connected.

I'll try to tackle the stuck bolt again in a week or two. I have a 10mm Turbo Socket on order as well as a stubby and S wrench. First, I'll swap out the ambient air sensor just in case. Then if that doesn't work, try again on the bolt.

I see earlier someone mentioned the engine being cold. Should it be left in the garage at night and not started at all prior to trying the bolt again? Just wondering if that may help ease the pressure on the bolt.
Any update on this? I am in the exact same boat. Got the 2 8mm bolts off then the easy (well, easier of the two) bolt would not turn. I have a rachet wrench, and it is stripping the head. I have a standard rachet, but can't move that tube far enough out of the way to use it. Grrrrr.

Oh, I have been soaking it with PB Blaster, as well. Thinking about taking it and the part to a local mechanic to just get it done.

To echo everyone else.... This sucks. Soul crushing is an apt description.
 
Well, I tried to replace my EGR valve this past weekend. This write up was a great help in getting me started. Unfortunately, I manage to strip the bolt head on the 10mm bolt which is actually the easiest one to access. That thing would not move. Now I'm at a crossroads debating if I try to get it out myself, or bite the bullet and take it to the shop. Has anyone else had this issue? If yes, would something like this help me to remove it?
9 Pc 3/8 in. Drive Metric Bolt Extractor Socket Set

My concern is if I end up breaking off the bolt head, then I'm really in trouble.

I may try to replace the temperature sensor for now to see if that could be the problem. I'm getting the P0404 error on my flash cal reader. It came up earlier this summer. I cleared it only to have P0406 return within a day. It then cleared itself for about 2 months before returning with the P0404 a week or two ago. So I'm looking for options before tacking the bolt head again.

Also, when working on the valve I found this odd strap just hanging inside the engine compartment. Can anyone help me identify this? Is it a problem or something odd left over from manufacturing?

Thanks for any advice.
This is where I am at. Oh the humanity!
 
It's been a while, but I think I used 1/4" drive, 6-point socket, and an extension to get in there.
I saw a video where a guy used a harbor freight angle rachet to get it. I think that'll be my next step. The socket I have seems to lock on the bolt pretty well, but I am not sure why my ratchet wrench isn't as "grippy" on the bolt. They are both 10mm.

Even being forewarned, this still sucks. Thanks to all the brave souls who have gone before and commented on this and other forums.
 
Update : Got the Harbor Freight bendable rachet. I could not get the 10 mm socket on it. I'm not sure how screwed I am, but that bolt will not budge and now I'm not sure how to lock on. That, coupled with the limited space to work in, makes for a precarious position. I may run back to Harbor Freight and try the bolt extractor.

Any help or guidance from the group is much appreciated.

It should not be this hard. Good lord!
 
I vaguely remember rotating the entire flange counter-clockwise a little to loosen the one remaining bolt in the flange.
I've heard that. I'm just trying to get the easy one of the two off.

In heading out of town tomorrow, so I'll put Stormbringer back together and try this again next weekend. Sanity permitting.
 
It's a bit late and I hate to say this, but low-end sockets and wrenches like HF probably contributed to the problem of rounding off the bolt heads.

Maybe try using a small file to remove the displaced metal on the bolt head and get it back to a hex shape where a quality socket fits all the way on the bolt head. A hammer may be necessary to force the socket on the bolt head.
 
It's a bit late and I hate to say this, but low-end sockets and wrenches like HF probably contributed to the problem of rounding off the bolt heads.

Maybe try using a small file to remove the displaced metal on the bolt head and get it back to a hex shape where a quality socket fits all the way on the bolt head. A hammer may be necessary to force the socket on the bolt head.
I hear you. My first attempt was with gearwrench ratcheting wrenches. Then my craftsman sockets (which fit the bolt, but I can't get the ratchet in the small space). HF is my last resort to get some one time tools. I hope to God that I never have to do this again.

But to your point, I should have done it right the first time.

Thanks for the tip. I'll try to file it.
 
Sorry I haven't reported back yet. I have all the tools but haven't found the time to tackle it yet. It won't be this weekend. But I hope to try this again sometime in the next two weekends.
I'll keep an eye out for updates. I won't be able to try again for a few weeks. Good luck!
 
I found a mechanic that would do it for less than half what the dealer or local shop would (mymechanic.com).

After returning the EGR I got, along with the tools, it wasn't that much more. Very much appreciated and very reasonable for what it would cost me in blood, sweat, and tears.

He noticed that I had tried and the stripped a bolt head. He went ahead and removed the transmission dipstick and worked his magic. All is good.

Long and short, it's fixed for not much more than doing it myself. Plus, I saved myself the additional hours of soul sucking work. I know it's not the Jeep way, but sometimes, you have to pick your battles.
 
ImLost7 - the late father of a good friend had a saying - "Never compete with a man in his own field". My friend, his brother and his father spend a entire weekend laying block for the father's new workshop. As dark approached on Sunday, they had two rows all the way around and up to four blocks high at the corners. On Monday morning the father noticed a crew with block heading down to road to a job. That evening he watched and waved them down. He asked how much it would cost to have them finish the walls. They gave him a quote and it took them a day and a half to finish the job on the 10' walls. The two laid 3 times the blocks in a day and a half as the two bothers and dad did in three days.
 
Thanks for this write-up! I've now done mine 3 times in the last 5 months. I'm hoping that the first two were just the result in cheap, Amazon-sourced EGR valves. The newest is a Dorman from O'Reillys, we'll see.

Anyhow, to make this a bit easier for me, having an auto transmission, I built a special wrench for the hidden bolt.

I bought 2 cheap 10mm boxed end wrenches, cut the boxed end off of one and welded it to the boxed end of the other to make sort of a deep-well boxed end wrench. It works a lot better than just a plain wrench. I can now do the whole swap in about an hour with a lot fewer cuss words.

I also bought a tool to install the stupid plastic rivets on the fender liner.

Has anyone else gone through several valves?
 
Hey All,

Yeah I'm puzzled. I get one of those codes - ties directly to the EGR valve. I'd have to go look see what it is.

Anyway I read that the EGR if bad will really make your engine run bad and do like one of the posts above said - make your engine almost die if RPMs are low. Mine did that behaviour but only once. So I was looking into dealing with this - do it myself with likely a lot of cursing or have a shop do it - big dollars I'm not going to spend. Anyway on some site I found a list of shops with guaranteed prices for this replace and I was going to go to one of those. Never got around to it.

Since then my jeep has never done the "pause" like it is gonna die again. It runs great - no change in fuel economy - it was supposed to go down - and I've driven several thousand miles with the CEL on including vacations. I've intended to disconnect the battery for over a day to do the "deep" clear and see if the same code shows up but have not. Maybe this weekend if I think of it. Until I see a real change in performance I'm not sure I'm gonna mess with it.

The way I see it is this - when the idiot light comes on - who is the idiot? Is it the driver who doesn't get that he/she ran the jeep out of oil and is about to blow the engine? Or is it the idiot who races to a dealer to throw money at a jeep because the light came on when it is really unnecessary? Who believes they can really trust every mechanic/dealer about these kinds of issues? How do you know the truth without arming yourself with knowledge?

-Ed-

PS The temperature gauge thing is interesting but my OAT gauge is pretty accurate so far.
 
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