[AustyPosty]

Exactly. So he's just going to have to consider this a lesson learned, eat the expense and move on.

Yeah. Lesson learned, If they can’t fix it I’m just gonna get Spicer gears installed. The only gears I know of that are made in the USA.

 

[Shorthood]

Yeah. Lesson learned, If they can’t fix it I’m just gonna get Spicer gears installed. The only gears I know of that are made in the USA.

Double down and redo it yourself.

When I installed my gears I saved enough over a professional that I could redo it twice (if no tow bill and not ruining a housing or truetrac)

It is a learning experience. Order a master install kit, a set of gears of your choice, put your big boy pants on and get back in the garage.

Pull the Yukon gears back out and redo the install from scratch or just drive it. Noise doesn't necessarily mean immediate doom. In the amount of time you have spent at the other shops you could have already fixed it

 

[cthusker]

I've installed my share of gears over the years and sometime back I had a guy ask me to install his as a favor. They were Yukon and when I tried to set them up I found they were so mismatched they couldn't even come close so I put the originals back in and handed them back to him. He went elsewhere and paid to have them put in. Was very unhappy with me. They whined so bad you could hear him coming down the road from a mile away. He stayed pissed at me and was mad at the installer also. Go figure.🤷‍♂️ I'm not a fan of cheap parts and will never use Yukon for myself. The big issue is that quality in general when it comes to gears has gone into the toilet. There was a time when gears were sold as a matched set that had already been pre-fit. The end of the pinion was marked with a + or - number to aid in setup by matching to the original gears that were pre-marked also. There was no break-in period because they were pre-fit. Nowadays gears are cheap because they are not pre-fit and matched by the manufacturers.

I had my gears changed by a very reputable shop that installs many hundreds of gears every year. Actually they've been doing it for over 15 years so they've done thousands of changes. When I had mine done 2+ years ago I asked what gears do you recommend and what about Yukon? The shops owner said they quit installing Yukon several years ago because their quality had degraded. Since they warrant all their gear change work for the life of the unit he said they could not afford to keep doing all the redo's caused by Yukon gears. He also said Yukon ducked and dodged everytime they had a problem even though they bought hundreds of gear sets from them. If I remember correctly they used Revolution Gears which are probably no better (lol) but at least they were warranted by the installer. They are totally quiet but then again many Yukon users say the same.

 

[fiend]

I have read that both Revolution and Nitro consistently source from Korea, which some people regard as a high quality source. Although I have installed two sets of Yukons (including a set from a box marked Made in China) and ran them without issue, I probably would go with Nitro if I were to do my most recent set again. Mostly because they have a 10” ring gear for a front Dana 60, compared to 9.7” from Yukon and others. That, plus similar pricing as Yukon and potentially higher quality.

 

[Old Syko]

Yeah. Lesson learned, If they can’t fix it I’m just gonna get Spicer gears installed. The only gears I know of that are made in the USA.

I hate to burst your bubble but Dana Spicer is made all over the world. As I'm told now by one of their former reps at present the largest supplies come from Taiwan and Hungry, but don't take my word for it. Back in the day even the original castings were supplied from Canada, shipped here and finished, but those times are past. Even Dana Spicer does not finish and mate their gears like they used to. As I'm told. Even so I think they are a better source.

 

[Old Syko]

So basically, no one makes gears and pinions in the US anymore?

Or much of anything else. This is a large part of why this country is as screwed as it presently is.

 

[Old Syko]

So if I want to eventually change my gearing, I should go with Korean made?

Unless you know someone personally with the company you're buying from you're not going to know where they came from for sure.

 

[Old Syko]

It's nothing more than a shot in the dark these days.

 

[Jeepahaulic]

Eaton True Tracs are made in Taiwan 🤨

 

[deepbluerubi]

Aren't the Spicers OEM? That is what I would use and have a reputable shop do the install. True, parts are sourced from all over the world, a lot comes down to quality control of the company that is sourcing the product. I think we are at a point when some are so used to buying inferior quality they believe it's the norm. Unfortunately, people are now buying the junk at an equal, sometimes higher price than a better quality product. As the saying goes, let the buyer beware.

 

[jac04]

Be aware that Dana has 2 brands of gearing, Dana Spicer and Dana SVL. Dana SVL is the 'aftermarket' budget brand.

You may be able to find out country of origin info by going to the following sites:

For Dana Spicer gears, go to the Dana Spicer web site showing the list of gearing for the JK. Click on the gear set you are interested in and it may show you the Country of Origin.:

Spicer® Ring and Pinion Gearing for the Jeep® Wrangler JK | Spicer Parts
Engineered for Longer Life and a Smoother Ride PROBLEM “I know I’ll need to change my gear ratio when I modify my Jeep® Wrangler JK, and I want to be sure that my upgraded gearing is high quality—and even better than before.” spicerparts.com

For Dana SVL gears, go to the Dana Aftermarket web site for gearing, click on the gear set and it may tell you Country of Origin:
https://www.danaaftermarket.com/aut...tomotive-axle/differential-ring-and-pinion/list?cat1=LVB&cat2=LA&cat3=RP&sort=1

The few sets I looked at a while back show Country of Origin as United States for Dana Spicer and India for Dana SVL.

 

[AustyPosty]

I hate to burst your bubble but Dana Spicer is made all over the world. As I'm told now by one of their former reps at present the largest supplies come from Taiwan and Hungry, but don't take my word for it. Back in the day even the original castings were supplied from Canada, shipped here and finished, but those times are past. Even Dana Spicer does not finish and mate their gears like they used to. As I'm told. Even so I think they are a better source.

At least the 4.88 spicer gears I’m looking at say they are USA made. I’m sure other gear ratios and different vehicle gears are made other places.

 

[AustyPosty]

Double down and redo it yourself.

When I installed my gears I saved enough over a professional that I could redo it twice (if no tow bill and not ruining a housing or truetrac)

It is a learning experience. Order a master install kit, a set of gears of your choice, put your big boy pants on and get back in the garage.

Pull the Yukon gears back out and redo the install from scratch or just drive it. Noise doesn't necessarily mean immediate doom. In the amount of time you have spent at the other shops you could have already fixed it

Unfortunately these big boy pants don’t have time to do another regear.

 

[rsmwrangler]

If you're not doing this yourself don't sweat it and go with a reputable gear installer that will supply the parts, install and warranty so if you have these type of issues you'll be covered and it'll be just your time to schedule with the shop to do it again. This is not the first time i've read about Yukon not honoring their warranty and ghosting people out when asked about it. The OP had to find out the hard way. I'll not buy a damn thing from this company in lieu of present case

You have to sweat it when you do the install yourself Do not buy the parts yourself, ask the installer if they can supply all parts for you and give you a warranty on everything they install. If you buy gears and have anybody install them, they can always say the parts were at fault if something goes south again, and you'll be on your own for parts and tear down/reinstall again. You either DIY and deal with anything that arises from the install or defect on the parts or pay more for the peice of mind.

 

[Old Syko]

At least the 4.88 spicer gears I’m looking at say they are USA made. I’m sure other gear ratios and different vehicle gears are made other places.

Don't buy into this BS. If it is true then find out and tell us where the plant is located and give us some contact info. Too many don't understand how this works today. I'm not aware of such a plant in the US anymore. If you find one I want to take a tour as I did many years ago. Even then they weren't made here but merely finished here and that plant closed a long time ago.

 

[Pressurized]

I've got Yukon in all 4 diffs... Two different shops did mine and both say they won't use anything else. 1 shop does 100's of gear jobs a year on everything from 4x4's to street rods... He says their install kits are the best too.

Yukon is their premium brand, they also sell a USA Standard Gears brand which is their cheap line, same company.

 

[AustyPosty]

I've got Yukon in all 4 diffs... Two different shops did mine and both say they won't use anything else. 1 shop does 100's of gear jobs a year on everything from 4x4's to street rods... He says their install kits are the best too.

Yukon is their premium brand, they also sell a USA Standard Gears brand which is their cheap line, same company.

I found the install kit for Yukon excellent, the Timken bearings are awesome. I’m just trying to make sense of this, I’m pretty frustrated. All the plans I had to camp for the past 2 months were canceled obviously. It just sucks not being able to go off-roading, I’m having withdrawals

 

[coolbreeze]

What brand/weight oil are you using?

 

[AustyPosty]

What brand/weight oil are you using?

I’ve put in 80w90 conventional with LSD additive, the shop drained it, not sure what they put in it. The gears are extremely loud, I don’t know if oil would fix it…

 

[JK-001]

I had my gears changed by a very reputable shop that installs many hundreds of gears every year. Actually they've been doing it for over 15 years so they've done thousands of changes. When I had mine done 2+ years ago I asked what gears do you recommend and what about Yukon? The shops owner said they quit installing Yukon several years ago because their quality had degraded. Since they warrant all their gear change work for the life of the unit he said they could not afford to keep doing all the redo's caused by Yukon gears. He also said Yukon ducked and dodged everytime they had a problem even though they bought hundreds of gear sets from them. If I remember correctly they used Revolution Gears which are probably no better (lol) but at least they were warranted by the installer. They are totally quiet but then again many Yukon users say the same.

Old thread but I'm very curious who you used. I'm only aware of one guy in CT who fits that description.